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12-06-2004, 08:39 PM#1
BuRnInSpartan
ok so i wanna make a spell called moon heal.... basically it's based off of flame strike (for the template) and then i want it to heal any good unit inside the template... ok now.... i got the template and i set the turn on to holybolt which does not work... then i made a custom buff off of heal and called it moon heal i went back to abillitys and changed the buff to moon heal (the buff) however when i cast the template over the unit he doesn't get healed... why not?
12-07-2004, 07:25 AM#2
BBDino
Buffs have no mechanical purpose, they are simply for Aesthetics.

To make a healing flametrike simply set flametrikes damage to a negative value and alter the target field.

Replacing the buff with a different spells buff will have NO effect on how the spells behaves. However to change things like tooltips alter a copy of the original buff to acomadate your changes.

Flamestrike also uses an 'Effect' for its main visual features (the 'Flame Strike') you will want to alter this.
12-07-2004, 11:14 AM#3
BuRnInSpartan
ok thanks i'll try
12-07-2004, 12:20 PM#4
BuRnInSpartan
eh that didn't really work... if you don't mind taking a look at it yourself i'd send it to you....

Here's What I Changed (other than tooltips etc.):

1)Art Effect: Holy light
2)Art Special: (i took it away)
3)Data Building Reduction (lvls 1,2,3)- 0.00
4)Data Full Damage Dealt: (lvl 1 -50) (lvl 2 -100) (lvl 3 -200)
5)Data Full Damage Interval: (lvl 1 -.25) (lvl 2 -.50) (lvl 3 -.75)
6)Data Half Damage Dealt: (lvl 1 -25) (lvl 2 -50) (lvl 3 -75)
7)Data Half Damage Interval: (lvl 1 1) (lvl 2 2) (lvl 3 3)
8)Data Westring_Aeval_HFS6 (lvls 1,2,3): 0.00
9)Stats Area of Effect (lvls 1,2,3): 100
10)Stats Buffs (lvls 1,2,3): NONE
11)Stats Casting Time (lvls 1,2,3): 0.00
12)Stats Cooldown (lvls 1,2,3,): 5.00
13)Stats Duration Hero (lvls 1,2,3): 0.00
14)Stats Duration Normal (lvls 1,2,3): 0.00
15)Stats Effects (lvls 1,2,3): NONE
16)Stats Mana Cost (lvls 1,2,3): 50

The Problems:

1) when i cast the ability he doesn't get healed
2) instead of getting healed he is losing life from the flamestrike effect (or buff?)
12-07-2004, 08:31 PM#5
AntJAB
If I understand what you are trying to do is you are trying to get an AoE heal. Hmm.
One would think a negative value in flame strike would work...
Have you tried starting over from scratch, replacing the values with negative, and casting to see if that infact works in the first place - or if the editor for some reason just makes it positive...

Also a downside (or upside) of flame strike is it has damage over duration, so you'll be creating an AoE slow heal. Why not just try modifying that new neutral skill - the one with the AoE interval heal - I believe that ogre/goblin duo has it.
12-07-2004, 09:10 PM#6
BuRnInSpartan
thanks i'll take a look
12-08-2004, 02:57 AM#7
BBDino
5)Data Full Damage Interval: (lvl 1 -.25) (lvl 2 -.50) (lvl 3 -.75)

Is interval a measure of time? Cos this could be causing problems. Ill have a tinker around myself to try to get the spell working and come back to you.

EDIT: Hmmmmm, i cant get flamestrike to heal, which is odd. Can anyone else confirm this? Cos from where i stand it seems flamestrike is hardcoded to harm.
12-08-2004, 09:29 PM#8
BuRnInSpartan
well... it's been done in DOTA and i really liked it so i thought i'd base it off of flamestrike....

or wait! all i really need is the cirlce template thing and the heal so what if i based the spell off of like holy light and changed the area of effect to a greater amount and changed turn on to flamestrike would that work?
12-08-2004, 10:47 PM#9
Panto
I've used Flamestrike to heal with no problem, so I can't verify that for you, BBDino.
12-08-2004, 10:59 PM#10
BBDino
How odd, i must have done something really stupid then.

Next time i get a chance ill try again, if i still can't manage it i may have to ask you to post a demo map Panto :P

Next time i wont wait til midnight to try these things.
12-08-2004, 11:19 PM#11
BuRnInSpartan
Quote:
Originally Posted by Panto
I've used Flamestrike to heal with no problem, so I can't verify that for you, BBDino.

well since you have do you mind telling me how i can use it to heal?
12-08-2004, 11:45 PM#12
Panto
*shuffle* Yes, my master. *drool*
12-09-2004, 02:56 AM#13
BBDino
I have exactly no idea why mine didnt work, although my suspission is i never actually gave the right one tmy test hero.....

Doh.
12-09-2004, 04:10 AM#14
Ryude
The Wraithlord in Dota (I believe that's what your talking about) uses infernal.

If you want the exact numbers I can give you a screenshot.
12-09-2004, 07:59 PM#15
BuRnInSpartan
thanks everyone! and ryude i'd like to take a look if you don't mind ^_^