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Azretail Wars Cinematic project and Campaign Needs help

01-05-2005, 11:17 PM#1
Guest
Campaign name Azretial Wars.Look this will be a sweet cinematic and campaign but I'll need help to do both of em.SO please anybody who can do anything on the WE come and help me.
I need Terrainers,Trigger ppl,Modlers somebody who can do backgrounds and many more.

Ok here's the story for the cinematic.

Takes place a 100 years after the Lich Kings rebirth.And he's got his eye's fixed on Azeroth.But wait there's more somewhere in the shadows a familiar hero lurks between the shadows hopeing to get his revenge,becuase of his defeat at Icecrown.

Our Hero's name is Mitherial Darkinblade,A new recruit within the kings army.He will become one of Ner'zhul's most feared enemy's but right now he does'nt even know how to hold a sword.

Mitherial Background:This young warrior's parents were slaugthered by Ner'Zhul's minions while he was out harvesting the crops.When he got home he found a dying father on the floor,asking him for revenge on those who have done this to their family.

Another hero is Lucan Darkstrike,a feared assasin from Stormwind.At first he and Mitherial have their struggels but later on they find out just how alike they really are.

Lucan Backround:His father was the owner of a local Thieves Guild.And that meant Lucan was bound to be around the wrong people.When Lucan turned 13 an Assasin aproached him,Lucan found out his father sold him to the Assasins Guild for 3 Gold coins.Then when Lucan turned 19 he was the most fearsome Assasin in the city.He also got a new quest one that he would enjoy very much,killing his father the same one who sold him.Lucan did his job well but was also set up.The Army was waiting for him outside once his quest was done.So they got hold of him and promised him freedom if he was to join the army.

Well thats the Cinematic part now comes the Campaign wich will be alot like the Rexxar Capaign allowing you to switch trough the maps.

Capaign's Story

Mitherial awakens in a garden.Except he does'nt know who he is or how he got here.A man comes and take him to a local inn.And tell him sleeping in the Royal Gardens is punishible by death.You should be more careful with what you do.He hands him 500 gold pieces and leaves the inn.As time progresses so does Mitherial's Memories.Now go out and shape you're destiny.And maybe you could save the world.


Ok people thats about it.So please help me make it cuz it does sound cool eh!!!
Now post here if you're willing to help
01-05-2005, 11:57 PM#2
funkid2
Sounds cool, really nice, if i can help in some small ways, with adive or such let me know
01-06-2005, 12:17 AM#3
Nachtu
You amazed me with this one. Sounds like a great campaign idea. If life gives me time from now on, I would like to join to this project, as a terrainer.

But I'll have to say.. My life is quite messy right now. So we'll propably see to it later, not right now. I will contact you later.

This is one hell of a story and I think you'll have plenty of good people on this project.

Actually, I could start doing the cinematic map right now. Just PM me or something.
01-06-2005, 09:38 AM#4
Fladian
So... 2 people are extremely positive about it; and here's the guy who will say the exact opposite.
The cinematic story is decent, I can't call it exceptional good, nor will I call it exceptional bad; decent is an accurate word for it. Becoming the most "feared" enemy for that guy is quite standard, but I can live with it, the assassin part was interesting none the less. Probably because I just woke up I mistook Lucan for a female character :P so the "he" part gave me a sudden surprise :P But hey, I shouldn't read when I woke up about 10 minutes ago ;)

Like I said, the cinematic is decent and more pushing to the 'good' side. The campaign story is far below decent I'm afraid. It is an overused story that is often too hard to create. It is quite strange you'll get 500 gold pieces from a stranger seeing as you already mentioned that it is not all-too-easy to get gold, seeing as that "father" sold his son for a mere 3 gold pieces.
Losing your memories, fighting evil, saving the world. Quite standard, quite cliche, quite unoriginal, quite uninteresting.

I do praise you for writing a near excellent thread of gathering a team. Normally you get messed up threads without a story or anything else that is of importance, something which isn't the case here. It would be better if you would give more accurate information about the jobs you are offering though. We would probably appreciate some information of you as well, we don't really know you after all, and seeing your post count it isn't really the best idea we could hope for, but I will not judge a person by his post count. (When I got a low post count, you could pretty much assume that I was pathetic though :P but hey, that was nearly 3 years ago ;))

Remarkable about the "dark" part in the last names of your two main characters. I'm not complaining though, after all, I've met someone before who had the same last name as myself and was not related, but I did find it remarkable.
If you would give more information of what you would do yourself and the jobs you are offering, it might become a bit more interesting.

If this goes well, I might give a hand regarding the history, (or background, whatever you want to call it) but I lost my hope in most projects a long time ago.
-Fladian
01-06-2005, 12:07 PM#5
Nachtu
Hey come on Flad. This is the best cinematic story for months on this section of the forum. And the campaign story is quite open, it could be done something better than this. Don't push it over the edge. I think it could develop into something rather good. It just lacks some details.

But well, this is just my opinion. And this forum section hasn't seen too good campaign stories in a looong time.
01-06-2005, 04:40 PM#6
Guest
I'll just ask some questions, as usual.

Why does Lucan wants to kill his natural father? If you sell your own son for 3 gold pieces you must be goddamn poor. Maybe he had to to survive, or to keep another child alive. Maybe Lucan was even better off with the assasins. Maybe he would have died a long time ago if his father didnt sell him.. Is it an ego-thing?

So, if I read correctly, Lucan kills his natural father, probably in some slums, and the army is waiting outside for him? They just stood there waiting for the kill? And then later on, they just enlist a cold-blooded murderer in their ranks? What kind of army is this? There is a big difference between a disciplined army, and one made of outcasts and renegades, for example.

I can't really comment on the campaign, because the only thing you tell us is that he awakes in some Royal Gardens and then meets a stranger that gives him some gold and tells him he fell asleep at the wrong place. How did he get in those Royal Gardens anyway?

You need to write more of the story out I think, give more details. Then again, that takes a while to read, so you might not get any feedback here..
01-06-2005, 04:56 PM#7
Fladian
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Originally Posted by Nachtu
Hey come on Flad. This is the best cinematic story for months on this section of the forum. And the campaign story is quite open, it could be done something better than this. Don't push it over the edge. I think it could develop into something rather good. It just lacks some details.

But well, this is just my opinion. And this forum section hasn't seen too good campaign stories in a looong time.
Even so, I've seen better than this. Which also includes stories out here in the Team Gathering section. I'm keeping my mouth shut about the story-section part of the forum though, I never saw it until recently :P
It can indeed develop into something good, but you know as well as I do, that it happens even less than rarely.

True about the amount of good stories in these times... a while before I became the moderator here the good stories slowly dissapeared. By the time I graduated there was barely any good story in the forum, mostly it were projects based on existing histories. Even though the last project I was actually fond on was Lord of the Clans, a project also based on an existing history (wc3).

WW. About that first part of yours. There is a possibility that the father would sell his child because of more mouths to feed, what is not necessarily the case, since that wasn't explained. Another option is that the man could've been drunk to do it. There is no necessary an explanation for that needed. There are many ways for that, and in the times that slaves were still used, people would be happy to sell them for a small amount of gold. My theory would also be that the gold would be rare in that time, though it doesn't explain the high sum of 500 gold to be given to you.

2) Not necessarily either. The father could have done things that the army wouldn't be fond of. It wouldn't be the first time an army (or police) would stand and watch/wait until someone is killed.
Out here where I live, it has happened more than often that people were mad on the police (and goverment) because a problem really needs to occur before you may get help. As example, you're a woman and someone is drunk and ready to rape you, (or anything similar) if you'd call the police you'll highly probably get an answer like: "You aren't raped yet, are you?" and they find it completely uninteresting. There is a big probability that it is the same case here.
Though you would definitely not see something like that in real life anymore, it is true that armies would be more than happy to would have a skilled fighter in their army. Especially if there are wars between several kingdoms. Though not always, assassins and other outlaw would often be more than happy to join up as well, partly because their lifes would be in danger regardless what they'd pick but also because of several other reasons. The royal armies would probably not take him in though, but I doubt they would really go out and attack a kingdom or so, they would rather stay and protect the royal family, or the kingdom.
Like I said, no real explanation is necessarily needed for this either.

3) Same thought here. There is very little to comment on the campaign story, except the fact that it'll give quite some trouble to make.
How he would get in that Royal Gardens would probably remain a secret, after all, the guy lost his memory - what could prove to play a large part of that role. Sadly enough, it has been done more than often.

The story is fine and detailed enough as it has to be... okay, some extra details here and there can be granted, but everyone makes mistakes. It remains a fact that there are more people here that rather won't read than are willing to read. I think that WW. doesn't mind the amount of text and as people know, I am very fond on reading, so in that case it wouldn't matter. I have slight doubts about others though. In the way it is writen, it is good and it has been a while since I've seen it this accurate.
-Fladian
01-06-2005, 05:06 PM#8
Guest
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Originally Posted by Dark_Paladin_16
I need Terrainers,Trigger ppl,Modlers somebody who can do backgrounds and many more.
so you just give the ideas?
´nough sayd....
01-06-2005, 05:10 PM#9
Guest
1. No real explanation is needed for the father, but I think an explanation is needed why Lucan wants to kill him.

2. That's why I asked what kind of army. What you say about the police is true, but police never enlists a murderer in their ranks.. (at least not where we live, they have to be of "unspoken behaviour"). I thought there would be hostility between the assassins and the army.. And if that's the case, why does the Army trust him for example?

3. If I help with something, I rather know the entire story, also with the secrets. If I want to play something, I don't of course.

Oh, and on a sidenote, I think if people started posting stories of about 10-20 pages, no one on these forums would read it :p Based on personal experience ^^

Damn, I really need to catch a train.
01-06-2005, 05:18 PM#10
Fladian
1) Why he wants to kill him? Is quite logical to be to be honest. After being sold as a slave, it is not always joyful to return home. Not to mention, he had more experiences with "murders," I guess it became common sense for him.

2) True enough, I am more having the "desperate" kind of thought in my mind though. Even though I can't speak with full confidence, I think they are too desperate and are throwing everything in the army to win their battle. Being that desperate I am pretty sure that the entire prison is being send on to the battlefield, even if they only had to provide as a kind of meat shield. Though... it does not really explain why he has been accepted in the official army. Heh, it seems I am fighting my own words :P no more words from me here on :P

3) Well, that's the problem here. This project is being made to be played, so I guess it would be strange to give out all kind of secrets and the important parts of the story. You know that as well as I do WW.

Hmm... logical, you're right, but it also depends on what forum you are. I've been on a D&D-modding forum before and they were more than happy to see a story of such length. I guess I learned the way of typing much (and being fond on reading) from there. But yeah, here it would probably not be taken happily ^^

Go already then! Even though the last time I went with the train was more than 7 years ago (okay, 3 weeks, but before that it was more than 7 years. You see, I can remember I went with my parents and my brother to the zoo, and... well, the last time I went to the zoo, I was 6 years old, actually... that's more than 7 years) I know how awfull it is to miss a bus, not even to mention a train.
Hope ya' got there on time WW.
-Fladian
01-06-2005, 06:56 PM#11
Guest
Ok people who wants answers.Look here is the reason why the army did'nt do anything.Lucan's father is the owner of a local Thieves guild right.It's not everyday the army gets a skilled assasin to do the killing for them.And there's a reason why Lucan is put in the official army.It's the only real way he and Mitherial could meet.And as for their last names,well if you join the project I can tell you more about that.

In the campaign
And the whole 500 gold,is given to Mitherial to start a new life.It does sound unreal but the man who helped him out of the Royal Gardens is a man who's name is Hector.The prince of Stormwind Castle.And thats how Mitherial got lucky.

And he has a memory los.Becuase of the battle at Icecrown.The last act of the cinematic.Mitherial,Lucan and a few other soldiers made it to Arthas\The Lich King alive and tryed to destroy the ancient evil.Little did they know they were'nt powerfull enough to defeat him.I'm not saying the next part but at the end Mitherial and Arthas is locked into battle.But hope faded away when Arthas hit Mitherial's armour with Frostmourn with all the magical energy flowing from frostmourne wich created a portal wich lead into Stormwinds Gardens.Mitherial got sucked trough and can't remember anything.

Okay I'm gonna stop talking becuase I'm Spoiling.I'll tell everyone who joins the project more.
01-07-2005, 05:24 PM#12
Guest
Looks like what I'm saying is'nt bringing in any recruits for my project so let's begin anew.


Here's what I will need from the people:
Terrainers,Trigerers,Modlers,Artists Maybe Voice Acters(see how the project goes) People who could help me with the story incase the story starts to go awry.And People who could help arange some music for the cinematic.

Okay let's also adjust to the story of the cinematic.

It's a 100 years after the Lich kings rebirth.And he has his eyes fixed on Azeroth.Mitherial is the main hero.He's just joined the Azeroth army,barely able to hold a sword.He seeks vengance againts the Undead for murdering his entire family while he was out harvesting the crops with some of his friends.Mitherial is just a soldier for now,but in the future he will become the Lich king's most feared enemy.But Mitherial is not alone in this dark war.There is also a young assasin named Lucan.A feared man becuase of his skills to become unseen and move faster then any man on Azeroth.There is also Alexa a moon priestess wich comes out of Kalimdor from the Theramore Isle's.But wait somewhere in the Shadows lurks a familiar darkness.A darkness wich only wishes the defeat of the Lich king.Most of his power is regained but the scar on his stomach still reminds him of his defeat by a mortal.Now he waits for the right time to strike and destroy his enemy.

Okay you know Lucan's and Mitherial's background so here's Alexa's

Alexa Moonshine:A priestess that was trained by Jaina Proundmoure herself.Alexa has come to Azeroth to help to humans on Azeroth.Becuase of the stories she heard from Jaina she knows the Azerothians will need all the help they can get.
01-08-2005, 02:36 PM#13
Amaunator
wth???? a 'moon priestess'
that's something for the night elves dude. Trained by Jaina Proudmoore herself is overstating. Really, next you'll be saying lord proudmoore trained mitherial himself too ... Just make her a normal mage who has shown exceptionall skill and wit in conquering her obstacles ...
01-09-2005, 09:17 AM#14
Guest
All of that I just made up,I tought I might have been able to raise some eyebrows.So people might join this project but nobody is willing to help so I'm closing down this post and going to another site wich might be able to give me more recruits.




So people it could've been great but nobody wanted to join.
01-09-2005, 11:05 AM#15
Guest
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Originally Posted by Dark_Paladin_16
So people it could've been great but nobody wanted to join.
Natchu and Funkid want.... :god_help_us: