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02-15-2005, 09:32 AM#1
Son-Of-Impurity
just some color art ive been doing in photoshop

these two are of goku SS1 one with no dodge and burn

and the other with D & B (See Attachments)

will continue to post more over time.

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i hand drew the concept drawing:


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i used a tutorial from pixel2life.com

tell me what you think. (obviously of the dodged and burnt one =) )


EDIT- I changed the color of the red clothing to yellow realising that his clothing turned yellow when transformed

also i changed the hair.
02-15-2005, 10:36 PM#2
Son-Of-Impurity
try using constrcutive critisim next time
02-16-2005, 04:28 AM#3
Saboera
well, its the beginning of years of practice, if you still want to do some DBZ stuff, try to draw the hard posing pictures, one of my friend is drawing mostly DBz and hes getting pretty good considering he is using dragonball... i throwed him some manga tutorial *polycarbon* and he used it and got better as well
02-16-2005, 11:24 PM#4
Son-Of-Impurity
thanks im working ono poses now, from a tutorial in mybook. :up:
02-17-2005, 12:20 AM#5
Guest
Don't let worm get you down I started drawing DBZ too (now I hate it though). Despite his hatred toward DBZ and anime he gave some useful tips you shouldn't just draw their face draw their entire body try to get it as close to the original as possible but don't get angry if it's off. Just keep drawing and eventually you'll get bored of it and move past DBZ and maybe anime. Also try to create your own characters then try to look at real life and put things in that you think will make the drawing better/more realistic. You are just a beginer artist so I will not rate picture but just keep practicing and you'll get better.
02-17-2005, 02:42 AM#6
Saboera
im pretty sure he drawn more than 4 thing so far, the ratio of what i post/draw is pretty different
02-17-2005, 02:44 AM#7
Shadow_Strike
i started anime, never touched a dbz drawing, never will
so yea
DO NOT DO DBZ please! its too over done
at least do your OWN WORK
i hate fanart unless absolutly nessasary
02-17-2005, 06:06 AM#8
Afronight_76
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wich i could do blindfolded.

we didn't ask if you could.
anyways, yeah, definitley could have a lot of room for improvement. it's okay if you start drawing anime first (at least it's better than stick figures), just make sure parts are somewhat proportionate, then try to transfer on to more realistic drawings. i dont mean to be mean, but that's a sadly drawn goku. even comared to the actual one one the show, it's still not good. i could give you direction on how to draw him properly, but that would only lead you to be imitating simple cartoon characters, instead of using art to imitate life (unless you want to be a cartoonist, but that's another story). well about now i'm going to start to talk like a crazy person, so if you need any help with anatomy or shit, just contact wormskull. and dont ask me becuse i'll say, "yes, i like dragonball z, so bit and byte my ass" now that i'm passed teh "cheapy" anime stage, it's fun to try and render those characters to look realistic.
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DO NOT DO DBZ please! its too over done
at least do your OWN WORK

of course it's not his work, it's my work!
here's your sign. yes i know, that's overdone too.
02-17-2005, 09:57 AM#9
Son-Of-Impurity
thanks guys but actually i need the some comments on the photoshop colouring more than the drawing :)
02-17-2005, 09:24 PM#10
Ogre Crossing
No comment on the drawing. I don't think there's anything wrong with certain anime. I'm really into stuff like Last Exile, Samurai Champloo, and Gankutsuou these days, as well as anything by Miyazaki, naturally. I just don't go around drawing that stuff for the same reason I don't try to emulate any artists' style without first considering the implications fo doing so. But that's not what this is about!

I know a thing or two about color and about photoshop, so here's what I have to say. First, don't start on white. White is your enemy. There is really no such thing as white, and you'd do best to forget it existed for a while. Where can you see white in nature? A piece of paper, some might say, but no, that's not really white, It's more of a high key grey reflecting light back to you. That is reflected light, and there' no such thing on a monitor. Your monitor is shooting electrons into your eyes (and causing cancer in the process), and makes your brain think you see colors depending on the frequency of the energy. So really, save white for use as the brightest thing you want your viewer to see. Which in this world would be reserved for the sun and other thermonuclear processes.

Start your coloring on a neutral sort of color. Also, stay away from Dodge and burn. I know it was all the rage back in 1997, but nowadays those two tools are not your friend. You paint with colors, not by raising and lowering the value of colors without affecting its hue. At least, you would to get the best results. In anything, there is almost always a hue shift from the dark area to the light area. Dodge and burn doesn't really do this.

I'll do a quick overpaint of your drawing and explain what I did and why.

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OK, first thing, I put a new layer on top set to multiply, and filled it with a dark desaturated navy color. I wanted this to be a dramatic picture, and an easy way to do this is to use a dark background with a high contrast foreground.

Then I start to block in the colors. I'm using more saturated colors than is natural here because I'm keeping in mind it is imaginary and only needs to loosely follow nature. Skin starts dark, and I put in highlights with a color more towards yellow. As yellow darkens, to make it look natural, shift the hue towards orange or it willlook green on you. Then I did his hair, using a cooler sort of yellow palette. Then his shirt and vest. Smal effort, just used sure-fire red to orange bath of color on it.

Then the lighting behind him. This is the brightest thing on here and notice how much it vibrates? The saturation is to the max and blue-green is in contrast to the orange colors in his skin and shirt. Notice how it isn't really white, or very near white, for that matter? Colors are at their highest strength when at maximum saturation, and when tinted towards white, they lose their punch.

That glow wouldn't have any power if the background was default white, because then you lose your reference of what is bright and not, and it just messes everything up.

Then the peripheral highlights on him. These are actually greys, but that's natural because when blue-green is pulled towards red-orange, you get a neutralization and grey results. They look more or less right taking this into consideration.

That's about it. I collapse the layers and tweak the brightness and contrast and saturation a little until I am satisfied. Also, no need to work large, This is shown in the actual resolution in which it was sown. Use a large brush, also; gives you more freedom of expression.

There you have it. DBZ in 15 minutes.

Keep experimenting.
02-18-2005, 04:00 AM#11
Saboera
awesome coloring, but one thing, its kinda hard to get it all, you should make a video about that, im really interested in how you do it, the only problem is that a lot of people are visual so when you explain it with a short text like that it get a bit confusing
02-18-2005, 10:24 AM#12
Son-Of-Impurity
holy shit, that really opens your eyes hehe,

so you start off dark and work your way through to light?

did you use any particular brush ?

cheers,

im gonna start that on my dude i drew (yep its original) ill change the guys eyes to anime style instead of dbz style (its toka. he's somewhere in this forum)

if you have anymore tips etc for photoshop wanna tell us? lol

02-19-2005, 12:16 AM#13
Ogre Crossing
Hmm, I'd like to make some progress shots, but I just don't have the time. I have to catch the bus in an hour or so, therefore I'll make it brief.

There aren't any shortcuts sadly, and the truth is no amount of explanations or pictorials can make up for actually getting your hands dirty. Sure, you will be better armed with knowledge, and I do recommend that you study the subject of color theory a bit, but the solid skills you need can only come about from practice.

It's harder than you think to articulate what I do, because really, I don't think about it much as I do it, and rationalizing it afterwards is a little difficult. A good coloring requires all sorts of things, too many to name. Rendering capabilities you will gain from any rendering work, be it in oils, pen and ink or pencil; the ability to translate values onto a piece of paper is invaluable (no pun intended) to the artist in photoshop. Solid color theory is something that you can pick up through practice on your own with a little difficulty, but complementing that with studying is the best route to go.

Sorry I'm not of much help here, but if you have any specific questions, I'd be more thna happy to answer them. Just not until Feb 28 or so.

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do you use any particular brush?

No, not really. Just the hard-edged round brush. I use a tablet and have its radius change depending on the pressure, but not the opacity. Opacity varies when I block in the colors or do some subtler shading, but its in the 30 to 60 range. Flow stays around 30 to 40. Lower values will get a smoother result, but take longer.

I blend colors with the alt key (eyedropper tool). After I lay a color down on top of another, because it is in some part transparent, the colors mix in the overlapping part. I pick that color and extend the area, and can continue the process in succeeding overlapping areas ad infinitum.
02-19-2005, 07:07 PM#14
StormrageJunior
Ogre... you are so helpful and devoted... you always search to help people and you spend a lot of time fot that. I admire you. And I wish that more people were like you...
02-20-2005, 04:59 AM#15
LightKirtar
Ogre, I loves you. Great crits there man.