Problem with Eng Upgrade

I'm using Engineering Upgrade to upgrade one of the abilities on my hero. I realize that if I dont fill up all the fields of abilities, that there could be a problem (already read about that). The EU is 4 levels, and I have the first 4 fields of ability #1 (which is the only one I really care about.) filled in. The next 3 are filled with Cluster Rockets, Impale, and Chemical Rage, none of which the hero has, but just to fill in the slots to avoid the above problem. Now to finally get to my problem. When the custom EU is learned on the hero, for some reason he gets the spikes that one would get from Spiked Carapace. There is also a custom buff with the custom EU, but it doesn't even have an animation. I even tested the ability with no buff at all. Still has spikes. I realize I could just do it with triggers... but I just wanted to make sure no one else had this same problem.

Have you made sure that there are no special attachments?

When I last tried to play with spiked carapace, I couldn't find a way to remove it's spikes. I suppose it must be hardcoded into the spell. Just use a different ability.

thorns aura only able to target self. its just as good :P

No, I checked again and again to make sure there were absolutely no special attachments. The problem that I'm having is that the spikes are there. I do not want them there. Why would the spikes be hardcoded into the Engineering Upgrade ability?

Yeah! :D In other words: Edit thorns aura's targets to "self" and that would do the same thing as spiked carapace. (Then just edit away the aura art, eh volia!)

BTW that attachment..is kinda blurry lol

Ok... let's back up here. The ability I'm using is Engineering Upgrade. In no way whatsoever do I want it to do anything even related to Spiked Carapace. I want it to do what Engineering Upgrade does (that is, upgrade another ability that the hero has). The problem that I am having is that the ability (based on Engineering Upgrade, not Spiked Carapace) is making the Spikes that would normally be made by the ability Spiked Carapace. I hope I cleared things up... by the way, if you hold your mouse over the picture in the attachment for a few seconds, it allows you to expand it to full size (it does for me anyway).

Your ability called Stasis Field, what spell is it based off of? Give me both of the raw codes for the spells used in the Engineering Upgrade spell.

I apologize, I misread your post and thought spiked carapace was one of the abilities you put in the fake fileds. Now I don't know what the problem could be...

Oh..lol mah bad. ANd yeah ok I see the attachment now. You sure you have ABSOLUTLY nothing based off or even related to Spiked carapace??

Stasis Field is based off Thunder Clap. Basically its just supposed to be an AoE slowing ability that, when upgraded with "Tyrande's Training", gives Stasis Field a short stun followed by the slow (the stun is done with a dummy unit + Warstomp). The upgrade is to increase the duration of the Stasis Field to accomodate for the stun. The Raw code of the custom engineering upgrade, regular stasis field, stasis field upg 1, 2, 3, and 4, are as follows (I hope this is what you were talking about): A054:ANeg - A051:AHtc - A02D:AHtc - A055:AHtc - A056:AHtc - A057:AHtc. And yeah Hunter... I'm pretty sure there are none at all :( .

Ok, another question(s)
1) Is your hero based off of crypt lord??
2) Is there any OTHER ability (besides eng upgrade) that is based off of spiked carapace??

1. Nope, heroes called the "Sentinel", and based off the Blademaster.
2. Not one.

Ok, one last thing before I give up, copy the ability, make a new map, give the ability to the unit and then see what happens!

Uh... I just replaced my custom Engineering upgrade ability on the Sentinel with the actual Engineering Upgrade, tested and got it up a level. Still got spikes. :\ I'll just do it with triggers. Thanks for everyones help, and if anyone finds anything else out... post it please.