What qualifies a spell to be "ultimate"?

06-08-2005, 11:47 PM	#1
Ignitedstar	What makes spells ultimates in the first place? I've tried to figure it out, but everything seems to tie up in knots in my head. Can someone help?

06-09-2005, 05:01 AM	#2
Azhag	When you change the level requirements to something like 6... there's your ultimate. You can make a basic spell an ultimate. Example, Blizzard can be made into an ultimate, by making its level requirement 6, and increasing the damage.

06-09-2005, 05:52 AM	#3
Ignitedstar	So... the only thing that makes an ultimate an ultimate... is level 6? Pretty strange. :/

06-09-2005, 06:14 AM	#4
Anitarf	Actually, it's enough to set it to require level 2. Anything above 1 is an ultimate.

06-09-2005, 10:09 AM	#5
Hyarion	Actually, there are only two qualifiers for an Ultimate. 1) You need to be a certain level to get it, whether it's level 6 or level 10 or whatever. 2) It's very powerful.

06-09-2005, 12:36 PM	#6
Elven Ronin	High mana costs and long cooldowns are also usually associated with ultimates.

06-09-2005, 12:45 PM	#7
mogmiester	i think that hes talking about ultimates not being affected by spell immunity, and using a normal spell (like slow), changing it so you could then slow a spell breaker, for example. But i might be wrong

06-09-2005, 03:38 PM

Azhag

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Originally Posted by Ignitedstar

What makes spells ultimates in the first place?

I don't think that is what he means, mogmiester.

06-09-2005, 04:50 PM	#9
mogmiester	what does he mean then? I think the answer to the question, which i inferred in my previous post, is that blizzard determines what are ultimates, and you can't changed that

06-10-2005, 12:04 AM	#10
Ignitedstar	That is what I mean. I guess I phrased it wrong. :P Okay, what classifies an ultimate in the first place? You know, Dryads are spell immune, but they aren't againest ultimates. Is there some way to change that? Make it so like Dryads aren't immune to Chain Lightning, for example.

06-10-2005, 08:45 AM

#11

Anitarf

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Originally Posted by Ignitedstar

That is what I mean. I guess I phrased it wrong. :P

Okay, what classifies an ultimate in the first place?

You know, Dryads are spell immune, but they aren't againest ultimates. Is there some way to change that?

Make it so like Dryads aren't immune to Chain Lightning, for example.

As far as i know, the only way would be to make chain lightning require a level 2 (or more) hero to be learned for the first time.

06-11-2005, 12:02 AM

#12

Guest

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Originally Posted by Anitarf

As far as i know, the only way would be to make chain lightning require a level 2 (or more) hero to be learned for the first time.

I have level 10 spells. They don't effect Immune units.

06-11-2005, 09:34 AM	#13
Anitarf	It's possible you have "ultimates affect spell immune units" set to false in the gameplay constants. Otherwise, I wouldn't know what could be the cause. Ultimates in my map can all target spell imunes, the only problem is that they don't all work right and some don't deal any damage (like my shadow strike based ultimate), but they can still target immunes.

06-13-2005, 12:16 AM

#14

Guest

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Originally Posted by Anitarf

It's possible you have "ultimates affect spell immune units" set to false in the gameplay constants. Otherwise, I wouldn't know what could be the cause. Ultimates in my map can all target spell imunes, the only problem is that they don't all work right and some don't deal any damage (like my shadow strike based ultimate), but they can still target immunes.

Well, you see the original ults (stampede, starfall, ect.) all work. except my custom spells. So if it would be set to false that'd mean the other ults (stampede, starfall, ect.) wouldn't work either....right?

Oh and sorry if I'm stealing the thread or w/e. Didn't/don't mean to.