opnions about this style

its quick stuff in photoshop using different brushes/blending options/opacity/flow
focus is mainly on shading and layout/pose rather than detail/lines.

edit: made them a better size for the style.

My suggestion is, before you go back to photoshop get working on line control. You have no confidence in your lines, it seems like you go over the same one fifty times. This completely destroys the drawing. Same thing with your coloring, long confident strokes are much better because right now your entire thing is covered a crappy texture that makes the lighting look completely unnatural. Turn up the opacity, why make a gradient in a layout sketch? Also, do not use black and white for shades, it looks extremely unnatural. Dont be afraid to throw in color whether it be skin or any kind of lighting. Lastly, think of how metal reflects when shading it, because it isnt the same way as say plastic. The surface will look way off if you just shade it like anything else. Metal has extremely unique shading and takes some studies to nail it.

Well I'm no expert and this is just my opinion, but your brush choise is not very good, it looks like a water color job that got too much water in it. Also if I would leave the lineart visible I would do it with full opacity on, would look less messier. But I guess those would fall under the detail/lines thingie =P I don't really think it's important what kind of style you have if it's just for layout/pose, only thing that's important there in my opinion is getting your lightsources, basic colors and such right, worry about style once the basics are done.

And I agree with lightkirtar on the confidence thing and that using black & white for shades doesn't look that good.

i think confidence is a dumb term to use for lines...
besides who ever said it was meant to look realistic? maybe its abstracted ever think of that lightkirtar

but nice opinion

The lightning is cool. Try to work on the forms, and to get better designs. You should also try to add soem colors, it looks boring atm (no ofence)

Most of them are pretty cool, keep up.

As much as some people love to ignore, fact of the matter is ANY style is a mere alteration of realism, and so it to some extent follows the same rules. And confidence is the right term to use, because it takes great development to have the confidence to make one broad stroke and be able to use it to define form. All you ever do is take everything someone said, and find a reason to ignore it. I think its no wonder your digital still has the errors that were mentioned by myself and others a long time ago. Also, youre gonna use abstract as your little shield to hide all your errors? You can come up with an excuse as to why something looks the way it does, but it wont make it look any better.

doesnt have to look any better when it already looks good. i dont have to prove to anyone how good an artist i am and that includes you. this isnt the "opinions on my artistic abilities" thread its the "opinions on THIS style".

i'm sure we both know that i can get as realistic as possible stylistically which is why that isnt the point of this thread.

Jesus are you ever cocky. Then again thats the whole point, the syle DOESNT look good, and I was telling you WHY. If you can draw good, why have I never seen you draw anything good? Okay, ill give you that one girl, but everything else ive seen you do was so much worse then that its not even funny. Stop saying im wrong just because you think youre good. I want to see you go to a company, showing your art and saying "Well I can actually draw really realistic, I just didnt feel like" or with your little "Oh it might be abstract didnt you think about that?". You are never as good or as bad as you think you are. Some people think their art is much better then it really is and you fall right into that category. You simply write off anybody that doesnt like your drawings as an evil flamer that hate you, but fact of the matter is that you need to grow up and get used to people not liking your work.

hey its a bunch of confident lines!

yea... i did this in like 5 minutes

and i hate most of my art. how about you try my deviant art account hmm? http://crazyyoda.deviantart.com/

and in place of your "company" scenario lets replace it with "modding team" as a modding team would surely want good artists on their team to provide quality art. Especially one that wants it's art to be of such a high quality that it would impress blizzard enough so as they are not shut down. Like Project Revolution. Heyyyyyyyyyyy what do you know I make the protoss buildings and some other things for Project Revolution. So again, I don't have to prove I am a good artist because I have already been told that I am by many people more qualified to judge it than you.

And, I don't write off everyone, I write off you because all you do is complain about my art.

Better, ill get some links to art that shows confident lines if you wish.

no i know plenty well what "confident lines" look like. Bet using something other than a mouse would make that better.

do you have a scanner? using a mouse and trying to draw efficiently is sorta retarded. not flaming or anything but yeah. it makes more sense to do it with a pencil. or a pen. if you don't like the term "confident lines" it's also called stroke efficiency.

Sigh I dont know why I bother but ill tell you again what ive told you a hundred times and we'll see if we can make the bitching stop. All I do is complain about your art? Its called crits, if I just said I dont like it you would complain about me not giving reasons. Project revolution? Thats models, not art. Dont compare modding is an entirely diffrent situation then companies, because a company wouldnt waste time on an artist that has to make up excuses for art being sub par. Im glad more "qualified judges" told you your art is good, but why would I give a crap about that? I told you what I think about your art and then you start bragging. I dont give a crap, I dont like your art and you wont change my opinion by talking, how about you show me something good drawn by you instead, and then we'll talk.

um... models are considered an art form these days. hell they were always considered an art form.

Yes, but its not what the whole discussion was about. Also, he was using someone elses concept.