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01-03-2006, 03:36 AM#1
Ace4
Ok, so I have two problems I need to overcome for my map-in-progress to become a reality. I apologize ahead of time if these problems are too specific for the General Discussion forum, so don't smite me.

Problem #1

I want to alter the Orb of Fire so that it does significantly more splash damage WITHOUT changing the bonus damage. I thought about adding negative damage with another item ability, but I don't think you can. And besides that would cause additional problems I'm sure.

Problem #2

I want to create an item ability version of Feedback. Feedback, of course, is the ability that the Spellbreakers have by default in regular Warcraft III The Frozen Throne. I want that, just as an item ability instead of a unit ability. So, I logically tried to change it manually into an item ability and the ability stopped working altogether.

I'm betting there are ways to solve both of these problems with triggers, but since I don't use Jass or anything of that sort I don't want the added trouble of having complex triggers in my map.

Any advice would be much appreciated,

Ace4

Edit: To clarify the second problem a bit, I thought I might say this: the item I am looking to create is similar to the diffusion blade in Defense of the Ancients. I'm sure most of you have at least tried that game, so hopefully that clarifies what my intentions are with an item version of feedback.
01-03-2006, 07:22 AM#2
Anitarf
So, the orb only does it's bonus damage in splash? I always thought it dealt a percent of the total attack damage, but now I guess it doesn't, or if it does, the percentage is hardcoded. Anyhow, there should be no issues with adding a negative damage bonus ability to the item besides the orb ability.

As for the second problem, there are many things that could be wrong, but I don't think any of them is the problem in this case. Just in case, make sure the hero's attack type is compatible with the ability (it might not work with different splash or siege attacks), the ability has no techtree requirements, the item has the ability... perhaps it's considered as an orb-type (they can't stack) ability and your hero already has one like that, or another item with an ability like that, which takes priority.
01-03-2006, 07:58 AM#3
Panto
I can't be distinctly helpful, but I vaguely remember from when I made a hero-ability version of Feedback that the ability used by the towers is subtly different from the one used by the Spellbreakers. Maybe you can take that and run with it.

P.S. Thank you for the grammar!
01-03-2006, 08:47 PM#4
Ace4
Hey thanks a bunch guys!

You were right Panto. The problem was that Feedback doesn't stack with other orb effects. I should have known because I believe it's the same way in DotA.

I found an alternative to using the Orb of Fire so that problem is fixed as well.

Edit: Actually, it was Anitarf who suggested that orb effects conflicted with feedback, hehe. Sorry for the confusion.