| 01-10-2006, 04:53 PM | #1 | ||
Right, i've been lurking around on these forums a bit and i've noticed people want to know more about the old gods... I'll give ye all the information i know/can find combined with my own theories. Feel free to add. Quote:
In the beginning, Azeroth was a roaring elemental chaos, as in most human mythologies, like the greek. Similar to these mythologies, a higher force created order in the chaos. However, the source of chaos, the five old gods weren't very pleased with it, and they waged war on the titans. The qiraj, and so the sithilid are servants of Ch'tun. Besides the insectoids, the faceless and forgotton ones also serve him. Its rumored that there are currently only 3 old gods alive. That personally doesn't make very much sence to me, I'm more found to believe that there are 4 gods alive, one for each elemental general. Ironcly, Ch'thun is the only god we know a name off. (INteresting thing to keep in mind, his name strongly reminds of the god Cthulu from hindoeism. However, here's a list of the old god's elemental genrals: (And some more info about the old gods) Ragnaros, the Firelord (fire) Therazane the Stonemother (Earth) Al'Akir the windlord (Wind) Neptulon the Tidehunter (Water) We all know about Ragnaros: the big baddy in Molten Core, summoned by the dark iron dwarfs ages back ago during the war of the three hammres. Strangely enough, Neptulon and his descendants on azeroth, Duke Hydraxis and the Hydrixan waterlord seemed to have turned against the other elemental lords, especially Ragnaros. This raises questions. Is Neptulon a friendly god towards the mortal races? Or does he use the mortal races to weaken the other elemental lords, for his own benefits? I support the last theory myself. Another theory about these lords is that Therezane actually is the Mother Earth the Tauren worship. As I myself believe that the night elfs and Tauren actually worship the same gods, Therezane may just be the roots of druidism and maybe even be involved in the emerald dream, or the nightmare? Mysteries, mysteries. Note the similirty between the names Therezane and Princess Theredass. Obviously a descendant. Another intresting thing to ponder youre mind about, is the thing wiki wrote: Quote:
There's little known about Al'Akir. Only that Thunderaan is a descended from him. Here's a list of the titan's of the pantheon of youre interested. List of Titans I hope y'all find this information usefull. It sure gives some info to ponder about. |
| 01-11-2006, 09:23 AM | #2 |
Wery Intresting, thank you Vig0r! |
| 01-11-2006, 10:39 AM | #3 |
You typed his name wrong, despite linking to the correct spelling. It's already been heavily discussed that the Old Gods are somewhat of an honour to Cthulu, particularly as they look like him. There is only 1 god, Elune, whom the Night Elves worship. The Elementa lords don't particularly like each other. Evil is allowed to fight evil too. The Emerald Dream is Ysera's realm. Most people accept that the Earth Mother is Therazane, despite it not being confirmed. Princess Theradras is more than likely the daughter of Therazane. Cenarius taught Tauren & Night Elves Druidism. He's the patron of Druidism. Why do you 'ponder' things that are actually facts? |
| 01-11-2006, 01:38 PM | #4 |
1) the earthmother can also be Alexstrasia, as some believe. This makes more sense seeing as how after the old god were defeated life on Azeroth as pretty much reset -for lack of a better word-, the taurens did not exist before that, and they would not have developed enough intelligence to worship a god until many thousands of years later. Alextrasia is the red dragon of life, and it would make sense for the earthmother to be her instead. 2) there are only 3 old gods remaining. 1 was killed near darkshore, the other near slithius. But the other was imprisoned as well by the titans, so it would seem that somehow that old god was released and defeated by the races of azeroth. The most evidence comes from the WoW slithius map, where there is a place called Valors rest. It is described as where the nightelves fought an alien evil long ago and triumphed. Who else can that be but an old god? We can also "assume" that the old gods name was Valor. |
| 01-12-2006, 10:05 PM | #5 |
The tauren and night elves do not worship a old god, the emerald dream is the realm of ysera who is the mother of cenarion, who then in turn taught druidism...now cenarion is a product of the titans so he would never teach lesser races about the "evil" |
| 01-12-2006, 11:06 PM | #6 |
^You are wrong on all but 1 point there. Ysera is NOT Cenarius's mother. Cenarius is not a 'product' of the titans. He was born of a god (Elune) and an Ancient (Malorne). He does teach of evil. One must know evil to know what IS evil. They did afterall fight off the Burning Legion. |
| 01-13-2006, 05:39 PM | #7 |
Stop using the term "evil".. its wrong to me. Its just a relative term. Therezane is described as a very peacefull character who loves to spend time with the creations that walk her... Hm, does that sound like anything familiar? As the earthmother responds in visions, we know she has to excist. And yes I know and knew the Emereald Dream is Ysera's realm. But that doesn't mean Therezane cant be involved. That's like making a house and saying the ones that live in it dont excist or have any influence on it. |
| 01-13-2006, 05:59 PM | #8 |
Who said she was dead? |
| 01-14-2006, 07:25 AM | #9 | |
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Did I say she was dead? |
| 01-14-2006, 11:37 AM | #10 | |
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Here. |
| 01-14-2006, 12:07 PM | #11 |
what has THAT have to do with Therezane being dead? I was just trying to say that the residents of the emerald dream can have influence on it. |
| 01-14-2006, 12:53 PM | #12 |
okay I think we can safely assume that she had nothing to do with the emerald dream. It was created by Ysera after the titans had defeated the gods and thier generals and re-made the world. I don't see how she could have been part of it or how Ysera would have allowed it. |
| 01-14-2006, 07:57 PM | #13 |
Only my history knoweledge is that: Elune was great god of NE. Cenarius was his priest. Other God who turned to evil is Kil'jaender. He maked lot of Azeroth, but he maked some wrong creations (like Lich King and Archimonde...) Edit: Oh, I forget to say that too, Sargeras was Legion creator, He turned Kil'jander to Evil, and helped monstority to world. This means that, there's 3 gods. And 2 demigod (Cenarius and Durotar (Thralls father)) Edit II: I forgotten, Mother Earth is Taurens God. EVERY OTHER GODS ARE DEMIGOD (Like Mal Furion, Illidan... (These 2 are not really Demigods, but their power such like that great...)) Damit, more forgotten :/... More powerful Demigods are Lich King and Guardians (like Medith'v). |
| 01-15-2006, 09:18 AM | #14 |
I assume you mean Kil'Jeaden. Firstly, Kil'Jeaden was never a god, and he was inmensely evil even before Sargeras arrived. In fact, he and the other evil creatures of the nether corrupted him. And he didn't create Archimonde, they're just from the same race. Kil'Jeaden is currently the leader of the burning legion I believe, and he's one of WoW's most evil enity's. No spark of goodness in him. |
| 01-15-2006, 12:28 PM | #15 |
You still spelt it wrong. How do you guys make up this nonesense? |
