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This is not a photograph, seriously. I made it in photoshop using a reference photo off to the side. I will even get my old computer of its box in my basement so I can get the reference off of it because the picture is old and isn't on my laptop.

It was in the old gallery and everyone (I think about 30-50 people) except about 6 people (yes, you, LightKirtar) decided that it really wasn't a photograph and wasn't made using a photograph and filters.

Insanely strong contrast. Was the reference like this as well?

now, now, yoda. you get LightKitar and kiss and make up.

Hahaha this was a fun thread last time.

Anyway, very nice of course.

the smudging on the hood is enough to show its been made by hand.

yep

God, you have to re-upload your pics because you make absolutley no new art?
Also, dont twist my words into your own little crying arguement. I NEVER said it was a photo. Infact, I have never said any of your work was paintovers. What I said was that smudging on the hood was amateur and the face had poor anatomy, and that using dodge and burn looks like crap. Eye dropper, dodge and burn and smudge. You seriously need to work on your technique mate.

Yes, I don't make any new art. You got a problem with that?
Using dodge and burn is good in certain cases, such as this one. All of those are valid techniques. If you have a problem with my techniques then to bad. Use of any basic tool to produce art is valid. Maybe you just don't know how to use them. If use of any of the tools was bad technique they would have been removed in one of the eight versions of photoshop.

Dodge and burn was used as a simple tool for amateurs who want to modify their photos quick and easy. You seem to forget that photoshop wasnt intended as a painting tool directly. Painter is meant as a painting tool, and thats why it doesnt have any of those things. But if you dont make any new art, then stop posting your old one. I also love how you never admit to a mistake such as the accurate ones I pointed out (like twisting my words and poor facial anatomy) and instead just whine at me about something else. SUPER!

Yes, the smudging on the hood could be better. It was the very last thing I did and at that point (remember this whole thing was 40 hours over about a month or two) I just wanted to finish it. I don't have Painter. I use the tools I am given.

You seem to forget that many digital artists use photoshop ALL THE TIME.

As much as it pains me, merely bumping this in another page of a pointless arguement, I feel this must be said. I'll just condense all the stuff into one post instead of having a petty arguement in every one of your threads. First off, stop picking your crits. You take one crit or two from a batch of them and decide to run with them and ignore all others in one petty attempt to seem rational. Not every piece you make is flawless. Im sure this is a little hard for you to come to terms with, but you arent a divine being of art.
Just reading your arguement over the process of this thread makes it obvious just how full of crap you really are. First you said I accused you of filtering a photo, which I never did. Once that got out of the way you started defending yourself. Admitting that you dont even make art and just recycle pieces? Thats not very becoming my friend.
"Maybe you just don't know how to use them. "
Ooh, a jab at my art skill, that doesnt make your pieces any less crappy, sorry .
Finnaly I got you to at least admit that you had errors in your piece. To my disbelief I actually thought you might have been getting somewhere. But that was soon proven wrong as I read your replies in the other threads. This vandetta is getting old, you just keep making dumb accusations and as soon as they are proven false you make up another one. Seeing the way youve progressed over the last year... Which was not at all, I can guess the way this arguement is going so I'll just back out and let you have the last word.

Flamin' all the way, good for you

Ok guys, enough. It doesnt matter how he made it, it just looks good.
And why shouldnt he be able to post some old art?

I'd say goodjob, and stop this (near-)flame argument.

LightKitar, I agree with you, but it's not a crime to post old stuff and dodge and burn worked well here, as oposed to other paintings (not necessarily done by yoda). Next time try not to go so balistic when you critique, no matter how much you hate the one who did the picture. And don't insult somebody's skills, that is a pathetic thing to do.

I like this pic aniway, though it's a smudge overkill.

LightKirtar, the old gallery was a long time ago so I couldn't remember exactly who had said what. I knew that you had been bashing it for some reason but now that you had mentioned that you hadn't I remember what you had said and that it was other people that had said it was just a photo. My mistake. Consider that a formal apology for that mistake.

But where is it written in the divine book of art that you have to use every single crit that people give you. (here's a hint, you don't have to)

If you want to see my newer works of art head over to the high poly 3D section, two of them (Wraiths and Terran Fleet) are only about a week old at most in terms of when they were rendered.

And I have never even implied that I was even close to being a divine being of art. I hate about 80-90% of the art that I make, I make a lot more than I actually post and I throw out/delete/never finish most of it. Go to scifi-meshes.com, my name there is yoda_ Alot of the people there are insanely great at 3D art and I will never be close to their skill level. Just about everyone at conceptart.org is better than me at art.