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04-28-2006, 06:23 AM#1
Karawasa
Quick questions folks:

Does DotA's Fissure use pathing blocker normal or pathing blocker large?

What is the AoE of the impale ability used for DotA's fissure?
04-28-2006, 07:49 AM#2
vile
i dont think its based on impale, he just creates rocks in a line and increases the angle here and there, the destructables are probably units with that model. it can be easily done by just war stomping on each interval and distance increase.
04-28-2006, 07:53 AM#3
PipeDream
Try this forum's search function. http://www.wc3campaigns.net/showthread.php?t=81863
04-28-2006, 08:04 AM#4
Karawasa
Quote:
Originally Posted by PipeDream
Try this forum's search function. http://www.wc3campaigns.net/showthread.php?t=81863

Unrelated thread. That was about the JASS. This is about the dummy stuff.
04-28-2006, 08:35 AM#5
PipeDream
The information you need is there. The destructable ID passed is 'B000'. Grab an MPQ editor and hunt around.
04-28-2006, 09:15 AM#6
Karawasa
I don't know how to use an MPQ editor, nor how to understand w/e information it would give me :(.
04-28-2006, 11:26 AM#7
vile
Using winmpq will let you open the map and look through the .j file. if you cant find it, type add files and then type scripts\war3map.j
extract it, over there you will see the map's triggers, however some maps are obfuscated so you'll have to search hard.
04-28-2006, 11:29 AM#8
blu_da_noob
Quote:
Originally Posted by vile
i dont think its based on impale, he just creates rocks in a line and increases the angle here and there, the destructables are probably units with that model. it can be easily done by just war stomping on each interval and distance increase.

Ofcourse it's based on impale; it stuns in a line and has exactly the same targetting/angle bug if the target changes position rapidly. To find the stats of the pathing blocker and the AoE of the spell you'll need to dig into the MPQ. I'll see if I can get them for you.

Edit: That's odd, the area field for the skill in the slk is blank. I'm not sure which slk file the destructables are stored in....

Edit 2: It appears that many of the fields for that ability are blank. My first guess would be that it uses the defaults from the base ability :/.
04-28-2006, 01:46 PM#9
emjlr3
it is, and just uses the fissure model, ive looked at the code in the mpq, Kaara, its not that big of a deal, let it go
04-28-2006, 02:34 PM#10
vile
Quote:
Ofcourse it's based on impale; it stuns in a line and has exactly the same targetting/angle bug if the target changes position rapidly. To find the stats of the pathing blocker and the AoE of the spell you'll need to dig into the MPQ. I'll see if I can get them for you.


According to your edits, its not based on impale. If you want accuracy on that spell you cant use impale, since its a line damage and fissure isnt exactly a straight line, but rather a random curve of a line. if they used impale than its not accurate at all.
04-28-2006, 02:36 PM#11
blu_da_noob
It isn't a random curve? It is a striaght line. And it is impale because all the triggers for the spell do is create te destructables.
04-28-2006, 02:40 PM#12
vile
Last i've seen it in a very old version was in a straight line but it wasnt that straight, the angle changed here and there.
04-28-2006, 04:29 PM#13
moonliterhythm
it's based off of impale, and it's definitely a straight line
04-28-2006, 05:08 PM#14
blu_da_noob
Quote:
Originally Posted by vile
Last i've seen it in a very old version was in a straight line but it wasnt that straight, the angle changed here and there.

That's probably because the points where the destructables should have been weren't pathable, so they were moved to the nearest pathable spot.