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The path of the "True Artist"...

05-01-2006, 06:39 AM#1
Werewulf
which is really the path of the true artist?
Digital or traditional?
which is the hardest but useful?
Which one gives your pride and awe..
which one do you think..makes YOU the "true" artist?

and for hells sake, its an opinon thread not a dam argument you chocolate watermelon cakes!

My Opinion:Traditional
"im not totally against digital, but its more like using a machine to carve a sculpture rather than a chisel like what michealangelo did..

Its more useful but you cant really say..hey! look what i painted or made, and show it in your folio without it looking totally fake,stolen or plainly drull due to the printing.
Have we lost our Artists hearts or only gained the artist brain?
When im in an art gallery.. looooove to look at the paint strokes and the way they blending the colours.. it makes me shiver in awe and gives me insperation.

Traditional is harder, but i get much more pride..."
05-01-2006, 07:14 AM#2
`deathlegionare
tradition is also more money consuming so i prefer digital.

(time is money)(to "get" them in a sense)
05-01-2006, 11:09 AM#3
erwtenpeller
snything that doesnt involve the smudge tool? ^^
05-01-2006, 11:27 AM#4
TDR
After all it's up to everyone's taste. I personaly love all art forms, digital and traditional - except literature (I find the majority of poetry pathetic) and dance (hate it) - but mostly painting & drawing, modeling/sculpture and music (guitar to be more precise) and I can't realy immagine what I would do without them and I can't immagine any other career for me (though I never considered myself an "artist - I kinda dislike the term - and never a good one).

I tend to prefer traditional artwork, for it's a lot more satisfying. It would be even more satisfying if you'd make your own paper, pencils, colors, brushes and so on, like in the ooooold days.

When I was little I used to hate painting, but mainly because I was at an art school (after the normal school schedule) where the painting teacher was a real bitch. I stopped going to that school after 6th or 7th grade. But now I love painting.
I've been into 3d modelling for 2 years now and god damn I like it. And I want to become realy good at it and at animating. I can't, I simply can't quit an art form in favor of another one, I want to do them all and in all media.
05-01-2006, 11:39 AM#5
erwtenpeller
Amen TDR. Allthough my traditional painting is really diffrent from digital (in didgital i make fantasy stuff, traditionally more "street art style", combining stuff like wheatpaste, spraycans, acrylics... lots of scary stuff into one work. I made one really great pair of elephants that hang from my girlfriends mothers wall now, i made the framework and canvas for those myself, used colored cloth for it, and then sprayed elephant shapes on it with a cutout. I then filled in the shadows in the shaped with ink.)

anyway, its all about havin' fun.

EDIT: and learning. Experimenting.
05-01-2006, 12:16 PM#6
TDR
on a side note, my biggest project yet and the most satisfying will surely be this one:



yup, it's a 2m+ x 2m+ canvas wich I want to paint, after the exams. it will probably take me at least 2 years, but it will feel so damn good. Oh, and another thing about art is the amazing feeling of creating something. No feeling compares to the one of creating something. Think about it, and the satisfaction you get after creating anything and how pleasurable it is (sex is also creating, in it's purpose, and don't tell me that's not pleasurable...those ho had it, that is).
05-01-2006, 12:23 PM#7
Travinkel
I'm in for both. Even though you're using a computer to DO the work, you still need to be either skilled, talented or a combination of those in order to make the painting itself manifest. I like drawing, sculpting, anything which involves my hands (if I sit still, they're very 'uneasy', and I have to fiddle something).

Same rules apply to the traditional media, you have to be skilled, talented (whatever) in order to do a kickass picture. Take Leonardo Da Vinci, he was capable of creating a painting which fooled the infrared scans used to indentify brush strokes. It seemed as though they were non-existant.

Aaah well.... To get to the bottom line; There is no media which is better than the other, no media to rule them all. Choose whichever media you like the most.
05-01-2006, 07:11 PM#8
Dre
Both are nice, but I'd tend to lean towards traditional for the physical nature of the artwork, you're really 'into it' when creating it, it's really there in your hands, you can feel the paint, it has its own thickness, same with other traditional forms of art.
05-01-2006, 07:48 PM#9
StormrageJunior
Does that exist?
05-02-2006, 04:08 PM#10
shakoma
how does one become a true artist? how is it different from simply being an artist?
&, traditional is more rewarding, you just can'T immediatly just go to corel painter and do gosu, cuz you dont even know how to use the colors or what brush sfx to use. buut, traditional is so expensive, damn vampiric bureaucrats! digital i think that it gets your hand less dirty, but its way more boring...its like..playing a shooter game compared to actually shootin people! you get their bloods and guts on your face, cool, no..?
05-02-2006, 04:54 PM#11
TDR
true artist is realy an artist, while an artist could be everyone who one day wakes up and releases "the artist within" and draws stick figures and thinks he's gosu.
05-02-2006, 07:50 PM#12
icbm1987
gosu... haven't seen that in a long time.

But yeah... what TDR said makes sense. A true artist puts time into their work and improving their skills... it's someone who is serious about their connection to their work.

icbm1987
05-02-2006, 11:29 PM#13
erwtenpeller
I get more satisfaction from my digital work to be honest. At least when it comes to colors. I;m just simply better at it becouse i've had more practice, and i LOVE the pros (as in opposed to cons) that come with digital (ctrl+z, masks, layer styles... infinate fun.)
05-03-2006, 11:51 AM#14
StormrageJunior
The truth is that whatever you work with, crayons or Painter or watercolor (etc...), it's always the same skills that matter : understanding how shapes, colors, and light work together. Understanding anatomy, realism, and so on... A good digital artist (or traditional) will need only a few days to perfectly master another media.

And also, if you wanna be a pro, be aware that nowaday it's digital art that matters. Almost every single illustration for a game, a book, a movie, whatever, has been done digitally. There are very few masters in the industry that keep using traditional ways -and very soon there won't be any. So if you're serious, begin with digital. Anyway, if you want to skip to something else later, there will be no problems if you've understood what matters in art.

I've seen great traditional artists (linda bergkvist, michael zancan) moving to digital and doing masterpieces at their very first try. I've also seen great digital artists trying oil painting and doing gozu instantly. It's just about the skills.
05-03-2006, 12:35 PM#15
erwtenpeller
Quote:
Originally Posted by StormrageJunior
And also, if you wanna be a pro, be aware that nowaday it's digital art that matters. Almost every single illustration for a game, a book, a movie, whatever, has been done digitally. There are very few masters in the industry that keep using traditional ways -and very soon there won't be any. So if you're serious, begin with digital. Anyway, if you want to skip to something else later, there will be no problems if you've understood what matters in art.
Actually most people use a blend of traditional and digital, but you are right that digital skills are becoming more and more a must, i think mostly becouse it can save you a lot of time, and to be honest, time is what matters most when illustrating or conceptarting in the game (or movie) industry. You have to be able to work fast.