Nightstalker

As a replacement for Murloc:


I was thinking about a Fish that is bad during the day but good at night.

Preliminary thoughts:

Day: 325 Movespeed, 25-75 dmg 625 range atk, 2.5 second stun with 30 sec CD, has ultravision (no reduction of sight at night).

At night gains 50% move and 100% attack speed, and that 2.5 sec stun slows Naga for an additional 5 sec (or 2.5).

And yes, its a great idea and thanks to whoever came up with it originally.

your forgetting the map that had one before dota, and the one that had one before that map....etc....if ur gon thank one....y not thatnk the real one...

Fair enough, now; what do you think of the Fish?

meh.... cant do enough damage to really fuck up naga unless fully itemed... maybe increase HP at night and increase range, but then would be overed... maybe a stun.... or if they worked as a team i suppose... but maybe a 1000ish range and increased sight range at night


i still like my vampire fish idea....

How about making normal fish at day but at night:

- 90% transparent (Think Phantom Assasin in Dota)
- Impossible to detect by holding Alt
- Invisible on minimap

eventually you can think about some ability that makes the fish disappear and set dummy fish (illusion) running forward (a bit randomly) so noob players will chase that illusion and you can run away.

certainly adds even more strategy to the game, which is always a good thing IMO

If you're going to give him such a large boost at night, his stun ability should also only work at night. otherwise he's even worse than the water elemental.

Thats a valid point, mystic.

I like the minimap and alt tab protection thing but don't know how to code it.

Please continue to brainstorm ideas, perhaps day/night etc. etc. and we will see what everyone comes up with and go from there.

i like the vampire fish idea...

Alt+Tab protection, set the selection circle size to -1.

Good ideas, but you should be able to let him build special night buildings that are better at night as well.

It would also be interesting if he was able to make buildings with a "camouflage" ability (it would be shadowmeld thus making the building invisible at night and visible during the day) that are more resistant than your usual invisible towers.

don't think you should tamper with what buildings he can make. that should pretty much stay standard so balancing is easier.

i think the mirror image thing is cool, but give it AI or something, or make it mirror your movements (u move up he moves down ect) thatd b cool, especially the AI one
O! or a blink, but it creates a mirror image and doesnt look like blink, so u can keep running and blink... but look like hes still running, or only appear there aftrer the image dies
or make it so that u can go invis and create an image, and be teleported a short distance and autoselect the iomage who would keep running under your controll but you would be blinked a short distance away and invis, definetly a night spell whichever version u pick, and for day... burrow?

Yes, dopplewalk would be interesting.

Perhaps also something that shakes the screen of the enemy. Hmmm...

Blind
Blacks out the targeted Naga's screen for a few seconds, making it impossible for any coherant order to be made. (Night Time only)

Basically, applies a solid black fade-filter to the owner of the targeted Naga for a few seconds. Simple and very effective.