StarCraft ZoneControl

Yes, it's based on an existing game.

So, here's the deal, i'll keep it short so people don't get tired of reading.

I've been working on this map for over a year now, for as long as possible i kept it a solo project, but i got too ambitious and expanded. Some people have already done some resources for me, but i'm going to expand again and make it even better. Some info on my map taken from my website, www.sczonecontrol.nl:


Now, soon Doomhammer (yes, the doomhammer from here) will convert all my crappy GUI-made code into optimised JASS, this will improve my map in performance. Accompanying this improvement, i'd like to get the models i use redone, since they just don't meet up to the standard i'd like to have. The animations are poor, textures are broken (can't be altered, 700kb, can't reduce quality/optimise) and attachment points are misaligned. Thus, i need people to help me make these!

I can do the following things myself:
- Making the map itself, triggers, terrain, units, spells.
- Basic photoshop, retouching and optimising.
- Website management

I've got the following persons currently helping me:
RDZ - Modeling + animating
Doomhammer (soon) - Code optimising

I need:
- 2d artists to make skins for models and a new tileset/terrain art.
(optionally) - Another modeler to get things done faster

Naturally, credit etc will be given like it should be. If you're up for the job, please post here with some earlier work and i'll let you know!

Thank you for your time to read this.

Mark!^.^ This is still probably my favorite warcraft map. Too bad I haven't played it in awhile:( And in those screenshots I don't see any of the stuff I made:P What models need skins btw? Sorry I'm so busy, but best of luck on finishing up this map.

Thanks camel! I'm getting RDZ to redo the bunker, wraith, goliath, factory and academy.

So i need skins for those! But most important at this time are the goliath and the terrain art, those are vital to improve my map. I'll poke you on msn some time soon.

Are you going to change anything to do with the gameplay?? new gametypes?? anything else?

If you don't mind giving me a copy of the game I can du teh JASS for any new gametypes. or optimize.

If you read through my post carefully, Doomhammer is already going to redo the JASS-part. And yes, i will be improving and implementing new things - if i feel something needs to be changed. :)

Currently, i only need 2d artists, thanks though

Id recommend>

- Making units slightly bigger
- Reducing the amount of units spawn
- Increases Health quite a bit

This would lead to more control and allow some micro in there.

Currently its mainly just using the all attack location beacon and just focusing on your upgrades.

Controlling e.g.
10 Marines with 100 Hp / 10 dmg IMO is much better than
50 marines with 10 hp / 5 dmg


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Also adding Firebats/Medics/Ghosts etc. could always be an option.

It already has ghosts, I know cause I skinned it;P I don't know about firebats or medics though. If you read the first post it talks about the tanks and ghosts...

Mmm, that siege tank is definitely the best feature in there.

Here we go again, always so proud, huh RDZ? <3


On the size, amount and micro things.. That's not what i want in my map. You see, i like masses, and when i'm talking masses, i mean alot. This will sometimes lead to lack of control as well - micro skills anyone? (Try coordinating a large army position wise while setting up your special units and keeping track of your upgrades while any enemy can attack you at any time.) No, i don't feel i need to change anything there, the size of the game-area and the swiftness of the map make it hard enough. And yes, i want tactics to focus on upgrades.

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And like Camel's Hump already keenly pointed out, the ghost is already in there, as well as the siege tank and goliath. At this point, i don't feel i need to add in any extra units, although i might consider medics in the future.

Although i thank you for your review and opinions, it's not quite on-topic here. Thus yet again, does anyone feel like making some nifty 2d art? :)

If you would get on msn I may be able to help out some more, although I do not have much time this next week. And show some pictures of stuff I did;P

Sorry to go of topic again, but I felt I had to reply.

Co-ordinating large mobs and upgrades is actually incredibly easy.
When ive played the map the main 2 things I am doing is simply.

- Using the mass attack beacon
- Upgrading
Both of which I have hotkeyed 1/2.

It is simply 'macro', which is alot harder instandard melee than in this.

Building,researching/upgrading
Controlling multiple heroes, several differnet unit types with abilities
That is something that is extremely difficult

I only suggested the above to make it more challenging and give 'pro' players a reason to keep palying the map to further master it.

From the many games Ive played>
- Capture the middle
- Research additonal range/dmg asap
- Research energy/mana shield
When theres the scale of that many units dieing in almost 1 hit, it just becomes keeping units in groups and focusing completely on the upgrades.

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I dont mean to dis the map and sorry if it seems that way.
You can make how you wish.

I feel that simplicity is partially the essence of what made this map a succes in starcraft itself. Have you ever played starcraft, or that zonecontrol?
(i've attached it to this post for you - if you own a copy of starcraft, i'd suggest you try it.)

The simplest gamemode is as close as i can make it to being like that map. The only thing there was 4 upgrades, expanding and a mass of marines.

Since i found that the setup used there was maybe sometimes even too simple, i've added some upgrades and units for some more juice, but i don't want it to be complicated. Some things i decided on a long time ago:
- There will never be heroes
- Marines will never have any on-use abilities (except from stimpacks in simple mode)

Like i said before, i might add in more custom units, and try to balance things out, but maybe you can imagine it's pretty hard doing so without messing everything up. - Besides, i need resources done, i can start thinking about new things when the old ones are settled.

Edit: P.S. I did not consider your post a dis btw, don't worry. :) - again, thanks for the feedback.

Edit2:

Kay, i'll try to be online a bit more, though i'm often too busy to bother with msn :p

(illegal?) Bump!

Since posting this topic i have not found anyone to help out yet; hence i chanced the goals a bit, first of all i need the tilesets to be done, priority #1. If those get done i might add in new/better models. So, I ask one last time;
Will anyone capable of doing decent 2d art please be so kind to join Doomhammer and me in our quest to turn this map into the best possible map?

I would need about two or three ground textures, with borders and one wall texture.