Turea church

For our first assignment at university, we had to go to the wonderfull "Village Museum" here in Bucharest (wich is basicaly a village with traditional houses and other buildings from all over my country), pick a building and then measure every little aspect of it, and I mean EVERYTHING. Every wooden plank, every skrew, the whole roof structure, everything. After that, we were to draw it on paper as all 4 views of the house, plans, disections, perspective and all other sorts of stuff. The sucky thing was that we had to work in teams and I was in a team with 3 girsl...who were very annoying and ugly.

We have chosen one of the traditional romanian wooden chuches, wich was built in the 18th century in Cluj county. It was transported from it's original place to the museum. These are only the things that I alone did for the project (I actualy worked on all the stuff, adding all sorts of details those girls couldn't do...).

At the presentation of the projects, the teacher and the assistaints spent more than half an hour on each project to critique it, give advice and the sorts, it was a wonderfull experience.

They liked my perspective, but they said it's more fairy-tale like than architectural.
I have a few minor perspective errors, as you can see, but I drew it after a photo and I did not construct it technicaly, because I had no time. So it's entriely freehand. So is the axonometry, didn't use any kind of ruller or other tool to draw the lines, just my hand. It's not that hard or anything.
Overall it's an avarege little ugly project, I doubt we'll take over 6 or 7.

Oh, and they may not look like they stand straight because these are photos, due to the A2 size of the paper. Oh, and the last image is actualy a photo of the real thing.

I doubt anyone will read all this bull excrement, but aniway...

whoa re on on the photo :D if u are there at all

Excellent axonometric, I like it a lot. What career are you studying sir TDR??

Architecture, sir moyack.

Mister [Mad], I am sorry but I do not understand a thing of what you said.

I'm also trying to work in that field and I was born in bucharest and been to that museum. Holy be-jesus the coincidences.
The first picture is nice. Is that watercolor and black ink?

Yes, it's watercolor but with pencil, not ink. The axonometry is in ink.

very nice indeed tdr...
architecture shall make a fine career for you ^_-

Amazing. You certainly have talent for art/tech drawing.

No I don't, I just practice a lot.

You say that you have no special talent for art/drawing whatever. Could you maybe show us a picture of your very early days of practice? Y'know, im -really- bad at drawing, but there is nothing Id want more than being able to draw. Im practicing every day, but I still have quite big problems with perspective and im absolutely not able to draw out of memory. I simply cant remember exact shapes in my damn brain. Therefore I'd be very pleased and happy to have your opinion. How were your first days of drawing? Did you first need to read art books to draw anything? Do you see every image in your memory clearly before taking it down to paper? Maybe this is off topic, if so, im sorry, and ill ask you via pm again.

Well, I first started drawing when I was 2 or 3 years old, so I can't really remember :P. I kept drawing ever since. The most dramatic improvement I had was when I was 14 years old and decided to go to the art highschool. Then I went to a teacher who "trained" me. It was a wonderful experience, I was like an apprentice or something. There was no big class, just me and the teacher. Almost half an year I went there, every weekend. I improved a lot then. After I entered highschool, I had a retarded teacher who dragged me down. When I realized that, I was already drawing worse than I was a year before. So I started learning more by myself. Then came the architecture "training", to which I went for 2 years...each year a different teacher. I learned even more then. And the rest is just personal trial and error and study.

This is what I suggest you do: search for private artists who are willing to teach. Going to a class is not that effective. The only good thing within a class is the exchange of opinions and stuff between students, but the teacher can't focus on you alone. If not that, then read books (good books, not cheap ones you find in every book store) and experience by yourself and share your work with others who can critique it: Conceptart.org. There you will also find lots of tutorials and advice. Just don't get mad if people don't reply, though. It's normal. They might ignore you completely.

Good luck. Keep working. And show some of your stuff here too. I won't critique it, because I said I won't anymore, but there are other good people here who will.

Thank you for your response. I have read that drawing out of memory can only be achieved properly if you know how to copy/draw reality or other artist's work already. As soon as Im able to draw out of memory, im showing you my work.
Maybe you wont find the interieur of my house very interesting :P (thats what im drawing right now. Views through the door, and chairs etc..)
I feel that 95% of the artists around in this world didnt have to consume every tiny bit of knowledge about art, until they could draw. They just looked at reality differently from beginning.

Edit: Thank you very much for the link, this website seems fantastic.

I suggest you draw more still life, other than places of your apartment. Place some random objects (more simple objects if you are just starting) for now and study how they are made, you have to understand them and construct what you understand. Then after you constructed and understood them, study the bounce of light on them, the actual volume. Light and shadow. And after that you can finally study the material and it's properties and start rendering them. Just don't expect to do all of them well the first time.

Yes, i've said u have talent damn modest man!

K, i read ur long posts about drawing... I will give 'em a try, since I draw too.

Just don't forget about passion. If you draw without pleasure and passion, you don't achieve anything. And after you form your hand and eye, just follow your instinct and don't let others tell you what to do (except when they give good advice, but I refered to the main concept and motivation and...you know).