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12-25-2006, 12:17 PM#1
Centreri
I went to the Warcraft Lore discussion, posted in a few threads, not having looked at the dates because I never expect topics from five months ago to be on the first page. Soon enough, people start coming in and telling me that I should leave the threads be, but in slightly less refined words. I even got a PM about it.

Is this really a rule? If so, it seems extremely stupid. I knocked some topics four or five topics up, not even a fourth of a page, and people are telling me to check the date.. How does that have anything to do with it? If a currently nonexistent discussion is there, why not contribute and hope that someone else posts as well?

It's the first page, not even from the second, that I bring a topic back up. Why does anyone care? Is this really a rule?
12-25-2006, 12:26 PM#2
FinalTyrant
A common rule on any forum is to avoid thread reviving. Thread reviving is something that should not be done.

You posted in threads which were over half a year old (despite what page they were on, it does not matter). The discussion was over, that is what matters.

So let me ask, why try and contribute to a (and let me quote from you) "nonexistent discussion"?

Does that not seem, hmm.. Idiotic to you? (especially since no one has posted since half a year ago).
12-25-2006, 01:03 PM#3
Centreri
So, assume it is a rule. What good does it do?
12-25-2006, 01:26 PM#4
Dominant-Male
Really kid.

12-25-2006, 05:58 PM#5
Tiki
Because none of us want it to be revived and have to "speak" in it again, when its already been discussed.
12-25-2006, 09:01 PM#6
olofmoleman
Though the exeption for thread reviving is of course the resources section, cause those are ment for comments on the resources, not for discussion.
12-26-2006, 12:00 AM#7
FinalTyrant
Quote:
Originally Posted by Centreri
So, assume it is a rule. What good does it do?

Stops the first page of a section been cluttered with MUCH older crap at the top, (older crap been the stuff members do not want to see).

Just don't do it again, nub.
12-26-2006, 12:26 AM#8
Mezzer
You should take into account that people leave, and what you're replying to may be a bunch of posts of people who don't visit the forum anymore, thus making your reply quite pointless. You should simply start a new thread if you've something to say
12-26-2006, 01:16 AM#9
Centreri
And.. no one will object if I start a topic if there's one with identical topic, name, but a few posts from older members three lines below that? Now, does that make sense, people? Because it's the only 'sensible' solution to not posting in the older topic.

They're rules, but that doesn't mean that they're written in stone.

Clattered with old stuff? The whole forum is ancient. Here's an example: Fifth topic from the top. And that's after I 'bumped' three topics. Last post is from almost a year ago - and it was in the second slot. Here. Even without that, I doubt pushing an old topic three lines up would be, by anyone except you, be classified as clattering. What, the fourth line isn't still at the top?
12-26-2006, 01:30 AM#10
FinalTyrant
To answer your lame ranting, please read what I wrote before, I'll even quote it for you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FinalTyrant
So let me ask, why try and contribute to a (and let me quote from you) "nonexistent discussion"?

Does that not seem, hmm.. Idiotic to you? (especially since no one has posted since half a year ago).

12-26-2006, 01:44 AM#11
Centreri
To answer your lame attempts to make yourself feel better by 'owning' a new member, I'll ask you how that is of any consequence.

So, if I listen to you on this, there is no point in posting (except for when the next 'newb' comes and posts similarly to me), than why forbid it? It's pointless, so why does everyone care so much? Unless there's a negative side effect, there should not be a rule to forbid it. Last time I checked, there was a small positive effect being that sooner or later someone will post as well, a small positive effect being that I get to piss off suck-ups (originally unintended), and a small positive effect being that I feel better because I got to post on the subject of Warcraft Lore - an interesting topic.

In case anyone brings up 'server space' or 'database space' (the latter being correct), there's a much simpler answer - delete or lock topics that have not been posted in for x days. I'm almost positive that coding isn't required, because even PhpBB has a remove-x-day-old-topic feature, so vBulletin certainly should. Oh, and that's also the answer to the rule itself. Instead of having so... stupid.. a rule, you could simply remove the topic in question.

Problem solved.
12-26-2006, 01:57 AM#12
WILL THE ALMIGHTY
FinalTyrant is absolutly, totally right. Don't bother arguing.

And don,t waste your time posting in Wc3 Lore. post in places people actually look at.
12-26-2006, 02:00 AM#13
Centreri
Either you have a problem with reading comprehension, you were too lazy to read my paragraph, or you like arguing for no reason.
12-26-2006, 02:19 AM#14
WILL THE ALMIGHTY
if its really low on the first page then its not too bad, but in that wc3 Lore forum, you're probably reiving a 3 year old thread.

It doesn,t really matter in those hardly visited places. The rule mostly applies to places where age-old threads are found in the 5th and over pages. And deleting topics that haven,t been posted in "x" days, might remove resources, but I think vex can find a way to fix that.

You didn,t do anything drasticly wrong, but still made a useless post.
12-26-2006, 02:21 AM#15
FinalTyrant
Quote:
Originally Posted by Centreri
To answer your lame attempts to make yourself feel better by 'owning' a new member, I'll ask you how that is of any consequence.

So, if I listen to you on this, there is no point in posting (except for when the next 'newb' comes and posts similarly to me), than why forbid it? It's pointless, so why does everyone care so much? Unless there's a negative side effect, there should not be a rule to forbid it. Last time I checked, there was a small positive effect being that sooner or later someone will post as well, a small positive effect being that I get to piss off suck-ups (originally unintended), and a small positive effect being that I feel better because I got to post on the subject of Warcraft Lore - an interesting topic.

In case anyone brings up 'server space' or 'database space' (the latter being correct), there's a much simpler answer - delete or lock topics that have not been posted in for x days. I'm almost positive that coding isn't required, because even PhpBB has a remove-x-day-old-topic feature, so vBulletin certainly should. Oh, and that's also the answer to the rule itself. Instead of having so... stupid.. a rule, you could simply remove the topic in question.

Problem solved.

I am not attemping to 'own' a new member here as you have suggested.

I am stating that a common rule of ANY forum that you visit is to NOT revive dead threads, the topics you posted in (interesting or not) were dead, several months old.

olofmoleman, a staff member at these forums already posted in this thread the ONLY exception of thread revival on these forums is in the resource section.

Also, what did you gain by posting what you did in the dead topics at Warcraft Lore? No one continued any discussion with you, they only told you that what you were doing was wrong.

It is clear to me that you are no moron, but you simply cannot comprehend the meaning of a common forum rule.