Captain_Griffin Has Been Acting Up

If you look in the project discussion he started an off topic arguement that ruined my thread with me, gave me negative rep. for supposedly submitting copywrite material (I got the seismic charge sound from http://www.audio-workshop.de/modules...php?storyid=72 which they actually made the sound themselves so it has no relation to Lucas Arts), gave me more negative rep. for someone else telling lies about me then I gave a response of "Sorry I don't play the same game all day and only like unique, original maps." which the whole thing got off topic because everything on-topic I submitted was deleted with claims of it being copywrite, then he closes my freakin' project recruitment thread because he probably doesn't want to get publicly embarassed, even though HE'S THE ONE WHO STARTED IT ALL IN THE FIRST PLACE! I demand all but 1 negative reputation point to be removed since that is what he has given me for false claims. Oh, by the way, he didn't even ask me where I got the sounds before he just destroyed everything I submitted plus my reputation.
Thanks for your time.

He's definitely been worse of late. I think it's that time of the month.

Apparently from what I can see, only 3 of your negative reputation was from Griffen. How do you explain the other 2 getting knocked off as well?

EDIT: Fixed my mistake, sorry Griff.

I agree with ilidan. Griffin sucks. Period.

Well, glad I ain't Griffin. Wouldn't want to be that poor abused fellow, with the angry crowd out with pitchforks...

Oh, you mean Griffen? At least have the good manners to get my name right.


Warning you not to glorify genocide so as to not cause harm to others pointlessly, and advising you to do a little bit of research into the subject matter before you do the map is not 'off topic'.

You started a map on the Vietnam war thinking it was all in the jungles, and no cities. Never heard of the Tet Offensive? One of the most important events in late 20th century history, let alone the war itself.


You said at the time it was from Star Wars. So you're now admitting to mis-attributing it? That's also worthy of deletion and negative rep, so it doesn't make much difference.


That was your whole post (well, except for a short quote). The neg rep was for a string of such comments about AotZ, with very little substantiation.


Which bit was this? On-topic negative comments which aren't backed up are also liable to deletion.


I closed it because you were going way off topic. I told you to contact an admin if you feel I am out of line - ranting away in a map recruitment thread isn't the right place.


You were portraying the neg rep that I gave you as unjust. That's effectively saying I'm corrupt, and that you hadn't broken rules (giving a false impression to possible team members). I could have either responded, or deleted (part of) the post. I decided to respond.


Only half of the neg rep you have had is from me.


You said they were Star Wars sounds. That's a trademark. Ergo the sounds must be owned by LucasArts.


Everything you submitted? To where? I can't touch stuff in the submission area.

You know what?
Griffen has taken a virtually unmoderated series of forums and turned them into a place where a topic there actually means something.
That you happen to consistently be a person who breaks rules, lies, complains on the wrong avenues, and more or less is a pain is not his fault.

He has been keeping threads clean, dealing with reports of spam and poor posting, and more or less keeping the map section worth reading.
Seriously, I have reported several posts in topics to him and he has taken care of them promptly and fairly.

Seriously, this shouldn't even be a topic.
This is something that should be brought up with an administrator via PM or the like.

At the time I thought the sounds were actually from star wars because it sounded so much like it until I went back and found it was made from someone else. I didn't think a site openly giving out sounds would be illegal since it's been there for such a long time. Still you just think you being wrong is completely unacceptable.

The string of comments were in reply to some asshole making false claims to me (who should also recieve negative rep. because after I proved you wrong you left my 3 points there because I was "lying" instead of accepting it because you're too embarassed or something), and the comment was merely "Sorry I don't play the same map all day and only like unique, original maps." Before that AND actually after that I was on-topic and providing suggestions, but after that I just said a few tiny things and didn't submit anything else because you would probably just think of more excuses to delete and ban me for it.

You didn't warn me not to glorify genocide you said i'm glorifying the U.S. in making this map. NOTHING IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER suggests that i'm doing so.

You could have maybe read what I actually put instead of letting your emotional feelings get in the way. Quote myself:
"I don't know why you're getting so defensive about "A horrible and wrong war". We don't make maps to historically educate people, we make them for fun. I only found out about the cities after I made the terrain, so I will probably turn one of the villages into a city (most likely the northern one) sometime. I will add a field or two also.

Theres M72 LAWs, M203s, M16a2s (upgrade from your M16), and classes. It kind of portrays NOTD Aftermath in a way, but yet again not at all."

HMM THAT DOESN'T MEAN I'M GOING TO ADD A CITY DOES IT? And matter of fact I DID change a village into a city like I said so. Don't break one sentence out of the whole idea it gives the wrong impression of what the post is actually about.

BTW YOU were the one who was going way off topic which started to get me to go off topic, don't shift the blame here it's your fault.

Even if I did have Star Wars sounds and EVEN IF THEY ARE FROM LUCASARTS that doesn't mean i'm doing something illegal and you still do not know where I got the sounds. I could have maybe even asked and gotten them from Lucas Arts, you don't know if it's illegal or not, and like I said before don't make an assumption it will make an ass out of u and me.

I didn't know only half my negative rep. is from you, OH NVM THAT MEANS I'M JUST LYING! W/E I GUESS I DESERVE A BAN FROM THAT!

You're overreacting with the "false impression of 'team members'" bullshit, I already said I didn't know they weren't from Star Wars but it sounds so much like it and it was from a site which is in a different freakin' language I didn't know for sure. If you listen to it everyone would think it's from the movie, and they probably got the sound idea from the movie itself. Lying is knowingly giving false info, so that means I did NOT lie. And please inform me of what rule I broke.

The word ACTUALLY makes it mean that I didn't know before but do know now. If Lucas Arts is giving out their fucking sounds to the public it's obviously not illegal, so I downloaded it. Obviously you're never going to admit you were wrong so this is just pointless arguing and you'll make up more excuses to keep it up so i'd rather work on my other map, kthx get a life captain_condescending.

BTW when you disrespect someone who the fuck would expect them to respect you back? Oh, YOU would. News flash bud, thats not how it works! If you want respect give it, thank you.

Now my rep is back into the posotive I apologize for any embarassment i've caused you captain_griffen, very mature of you to do that.

I did get other negative rep. because someone else starts flaming me and then I say something back, like this one kid was saying assanine unneeded egotisticle comments to my skin which I already explained to him but he was merely saying crap to piss me off so I said "Don't be a jackass." to him with other stuff in my post and got negative rep. for it. Even after he kept flaming I ignored him but he kept on going so thats why I said it. Sometimes just ignoring the flamer doesn't work but I could have said something like "Can an admin clean up some of these comments and can ___ clean up his act?"

[quote=Rising_Dusk]You know what?
Griffen has taken a virtually unmoderated series of forums and turned them into a place where a topic there actually means something.[quote]
WARNING! WARNING! MODERATOR SUCK UP! yea ill admit that is flame

But anyways Illidan does have a point not just griffin but the entire campaign community. I mean the rules now and days is not to state your own mistakes otherwise people will just keep posting that over and over becuase they can't think of anything else to acutly add to there post besides what you already told them. most The Idea of copywight is so people can't use whatever copyrighted for COMMERCAIL USE! Obvisly Illidan is not using them for commercail use in anyway. I'll admit mods do have to deal with to many noobs but people shoulden't have to approve every model,map,skin, or comment the mods made becuase they know if they don't it will lessen there chances of being able to post there own stuff in and get it approved.

Nice one Xlightscreen, +rep :D.

Not really. You are talking about GPL, or something similar to it. It's not like I can make a game with Stormtroopers and Jedis and sounds from the movie. Even if the game would be free, that's still violation of copyright.

Too bad he's completely right.

If a boat had a gaping hole, why would people bother telling the captain about other problems? The huge, gaping problems are the biggest priority. Not small, nitpicky things. People will focus on the big things because they're so obvious.


If the moderators and reviewers feel that something is keeping a resource from being approvable, it needs to be fixed. It's the mapmaker's choice if they want to fix it, but it's the moderators and reviewers' choice to not accept a resource.

Yeah. It's just that suing takes time and money, and companies usually can't be bothered. In other words, they don't care particularly much about it. Unless your stuff causes you to gain of billions of dollars.

Ok. I've been watching the flame war between CG and illidan. I tend to dislike CG also, he tends to do what Illidan said. HOWEVER! Illidan, you should have just dropped it. Rep isn't the whole fucking world. Instead, you continued to shoot back and forth. Nobody forced you to sway off-topic, you decided to.

Also, theres such a thing as Copy+Paste your info from Thread 1 into a new thread.

You constantly whine about getting red-repped because you were false-accused. Yeah, well the world doesn't revolve around your rep count, and many times people don't give half a crap. Just accept what happened and move on with life.

There's my 2 cents. Both CG and Illidan were doing wrong things.... But as much as I hate to, I have to sway to CG's side here. Illidan, you are consistantly flaming (yes, flaming) CG about "his emotions blocking his judgement" or something like that. THAT is flaming.

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It's funny, because of these "copyright" laws, if companies actually took action, half of the maps on B.net wouldn't exist right now. Ever heard of Star Wars Footman Wars? shitty shitty map, but the thing is jampacked with star-wars things. I don't see a law suit, do you?

If I con a pound off you, you aren't going to go to the police, are you?

It's still immoral, even if you can get away with it.

Oh... I forgot pounds are a currancy, i was like "wtf?"

Meh, good point. Just saying, it's not that big of a deal really. Now if you went and tried to SELL it, then they could sue your ass to hell.