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The Horde in Northrend campaing, ppl needed.

01-06-2003, 06:17 AM#1
wilbo
This is a campaing i made up ages before the game came out!!! I changed the ideas a bit after but It is fully planned and ready! I had forgotten i had ever made it! When playing ROK i remebered however and here are my ideas that might interesst ppl into helping me:

WARNING: This camaig starts at the end of "beyong the dark portal" and dosn't have anything to do with anything past it. eg: Lord of the Cland and Reign of Choas. Also and do not scream, Northrend is attached to Lorderon! But as i said i made it before the game.

The orcs that escaped from Drenor at its destruction crave revenge on the humans, but their numbers are too few so they decide to go to areas that are not populated by humans and search 4 orcs. Once they had enough troups they planned to attack slave/internment camps and free orcs. Killing all humans and doing everything in complete secrecy so that by the time the humans found out, well they wouldn't untill it was too late.

In my campaing it goes on from warII as I said, check warII history if you like but is says that Gul'Dan kill Sargeras! In WarIII it is the opposite! Anyway, only knowing the warII history I said that Sargeras was too powerful to be really killed so Gul'Dan imprisoned him in his soul... When he died (killed by orc WarII and demons warIII) Sargeras remained in his skull, giving it the magical powers to create and destroy portals (see beyond the dark portal). When Dreanor is destroyed the skull is (sugestions welcomed) somhow spat out of the twisting nether back into the humans world, this time ni Northrend. It is discovered by a group of peacful orcs who are soon bent under its will and worshipping it like a god. At the same time the small sized Horde has arrived in Northerend to look for more warriros. A blade master (one of your heros). Sees the corruption the skull is putting on the orc villagers (he is not part of the horde) he steals it to save them and decides to take it up to the sumit (icecrown mabye?) and destroy it by throwing it back into the rift at the top where the orcs found it. Little does he know that firstly, the rift is now a portal, bringing undead minions into Northrend and also that he is being driven by the skull to bring it back to the summit, not to be destroyed but freed!

This campaing has many different characters, All end up corrupted or dead exept the (you won't belive this) Taurean chieftan! Yes i first thought taurean lived in the snow! that is one of the skins i will make, snow taurean... I will reveal the rest of the epic tale when ppl are interested! Even if you can't skin or model you can think up names...etc!

Please be interrested! I really want to tell you about the rest of my cmapaing! :(
01-06-2003, 07:03 AM#2
Warbringer87
Sargeraas was kileld by Medivhs mother. The Guldan opened up Sargeraas' tomb and was killed by demons who were buried there. This is because the Spirit of Sargeras entered Medivh, and made him go nuts.

Get the facts right. And so far, it sounds like crap. If you want to remove the crapiness, make it go with the REAL story. Or, just make up your own world, and your own characters, and then you won't have to worry about it following the Story, since you will be making it yourself.
01-06-2003, 01:10 PM#3
Evil-Tormenter
Ohh... So you mean that Medivh's mother killed Sargeras (She must be freaking powerful). But i thought Sargeras had never tried to go onto mortal world again after he lost to the Night Elves because of Queen Azhara's failure to open the portal in the moon well? On warcraft 3 directory i found whole story of he game, and it says that Sargeras only tried to enter the world once? So how could Medivh's mother killed him?

I bet Medivh opened the portal to the Orcs while he was possesed by Sargeras' Spirit right? Hmm...

I need to buy Warcraft 2 to have a look at the storyline better...(Did the same bought DIablo I after i bought Diablo II to understand what made the traveller go mad.The stories of Diablo I, II and expansion fascinate me, just as much as the story of Warcraft does.)
01-06-2003, 08:10 PM#4
wilbo
that warbringer guy is an ignorant fool. Have you ever played war2? if not then what on earth r u critising me for! I said very clearly that my storyline goes on from War2 and has nothing to do with Lord of the Clans Or War3! I said that! My story is perfectly possible! I didn't even say anything about Medivh or his mother... Where did u get that? In my campaing Medivh has already been killed by King Lane's men... He is NOT a good guy. why on earth they made him a good guy i don't know! Anyway in WAR2, Gul'Dan KILLS Sargeras. In WAR3 Gul'Dan is KILLED by mad demons in his tomb. I remind you that sargeras is NOT a god in WAR2 he is a stupid DEMON who is KILLED! you go bloody well find a better idea you bastard! I think you should me eaten alive by my pet rabbit! :gfu:
01-06-2003, 08:13 PM#5
wilbo
correction of that **** wit warbringer's letter:

Medivh's mother tried to beat medivh but FAILED and played NO other part in the story.

My story is true to the story line up to the END of WAR2 BEYONG DARK PORTAL the history CHANGES! In WAR2 it is different from WAR3!
01-06-2003, 08:15 PM#6
wilbo
Quote:
Originally posted by eviltormenter
I need to buy Warcraft 2 to have a look at the storyline better...(Did the same bought DIablo I after i bought Diablo II to understand what made the traveller go mad.The stories of Diablo I, II and expansion fascinate me, just as much as the story of Warcraft does.)


yes and so shuold war bringer! my stroy does NOT involve WAR3 get that into your thick head Warbringer! OMG you are so stupid :gfu:
01-10-2003, 02:54 AM#7
Guest
I'm willing to lend u a hand if u need it bro. just lemme know.
01-10-2003, 03:52 AM#8
Warbringer87
First of all, learn to spell, and grow up.

So I see these forums have gone into screaming and yelling instead of showing proof. Well i have proof. But, instead of help you, i will let the critiques of the internet beat down and flame you incessantly since you are obviousley thick headed, and unwilling to even consider what other people say.

Then again, i do pity you.

Guldan does NOT kill Sargeras. The fact that you believe a Orc Warlock can kill a Corrupted Titan that consumes worlds worries me, and shows the exact amount of your sheer stupidity.

Then again, because you are slightly ignorant, I believe, unlike you I must show proof of my claims. Well, here it is.

LOOK IN THE PDF MANUAL CALLED WAR3BNE.pdf. If you have expansion, look in the PDF of that and the PDF of the original. Read the oirignal one first. Look for the first part of the Human story.

if you have WAR2BNE.pdf, it starts on page 36. I don't know about the other ones.

And please realize that that is the WARCRAFT II BNE (meaning WC2 and WC2Xpansion) manual, and NOT WARCRAFT III. So it is with great pleasure I quote you on this.


Quote:
yes and so shuold war bringer! my stroy does NOT involve WAR3 get that into your thick head Warbringer! OMG you are so stupid


PS: Who is stupid now? And to clear something up, the Demon shown in the Cinematic in Warcraft 2 when Guldan opens the tomb is NOT Sargeras you ignorant pest. It is A Daemon. A DAEMON. NOT SARGERAS. And it is "crazed" just as the Mission Briefing following the Cinematic states. And judging at how you react to other people, I say your crazy too.
01-10-2003, 04:19 AM#9
Warbringer87
I thought I might as well go back and point out all your mistakes.


Quote:
In my campaing it goes on from warII as I said, check warII history if you like but is says that Gul'Dan kill Sargeras! In WarIII it is the opposite! Anyway, only knowing the warII history I said that Sargeras was too powerful to be really killed so Gul'Dan imprisoned him in his soul... When he died (killed by orc WarII and demons warIII)

Guldan did not kill sargeras. And You say it is the opposite, then you say Sargeras goes into Guldan. That is not at all opposite. opposite would be Sargeras killing Guldan. (Even though Guldan DIDNT KILL SARGERAS)


Quote:
Sargeras remained in his skull, giving it the magical powers to create and destroy portals (see beyond the dark portal). When Dreanor is destroyed the skull is (sugestions welcomed) somhow spat out of the twisting nether back into the humans world, this time ni Northrend. It is discovered by a group of peacful orcs who are soon bent under its will and worshipping it like a god. At the same time the small sized Horde has arrived in Northerend to look for more warriros.

This is very stupid. You say that the horde is small, then how would it go all the way from Azeroth (where the Dark Portal was destroyed) trough lordaeron and then to Northrend (which i assume you made it stuck to the top, sicne rearanging the continents in a pre-made world isn't exactly following the story, then again neither is northrend being attacked to lordaeron.) BTW, the Horde was never in northrend, so how would they look for guys there when all the orcs are supposed to be in azeroth after the portal explodes. oh but I am sure you will make some excuse and mutilate the story even further. oh and you say "Sargeras remains in his skull" According to you, that is Guldans skull, get your own story straight.

Quote:
A blade master (one of your heros). Sees the corruption the skull is putting on the orc villagers (he is not part of the horde) he steals it to save them and decides to take it up to the sumit (icecrown mabye?) and destroy it by throwing it back into the rift at the top where the orcs found it. Little does he know that firstly, the rift is now a portal, bringing undead minions into Northrend and also that he is being driven by the skull to bring it back to the summit, not to be destroyed but freed!


So now there is a rift in northrend, and since you say Lord of the Clans never happened, i assume the blademaster is the new warchief? oh wait, supposedly, he isn't in the horde.
01-11-2003, 04:19 PM#10
EvilNed
Well, seeing that Warbringer doesn't really come with anything new to this argument and only throws up stuff that has already been answered by Wilbo, I shall ask Warbringer to just nicely shut up and go do something that doesn't involve stupid people (warbringer logic).

Now, Wilbo, this story sounds very interesting, I'd like to help. I know mapping, some triggers and some cinematics. And I can recolor skins! Woohoo!
01-11-2003, 04:38 PM#11
Magic
Warbringer - Well said, but stop wasting your time with him. Use your efforts elsewhere.
I mean, just check out the thread's original title.
01-13-2003, 05:38 AM#12
wilbo
Quote:
Originally posted by Warbringer87
First of all, learn to spell, and grow up.

01-13-2003, 05:48 AM#13
wilbo
oops! mabye warbringer was right, i am a bit stupid, i even forgot to write my message at the end. Look, warbringer i am sry 4 getting pissed but really, please learn to read... i said warcraft 2! Just listen to me Mate, go read war 2 history! lets prtend war 3 isn't out yet and you know nothing about all that stuff about corrupt titans. Also, like me you know nothing about Lord of the Clans so you begin inventing your story (this bit is very important so consertrate):

only using war 2<------ (very important) history.
not using war3<------- (very important) history.

How did i lean about Northrend? before u ask, i answer.

I am a short fused australian 12 year old fan boy. I was always looking at the site and saw stuff about "Frost Worms come from Northrend". Also they had reavealed that Nerzul was captured by the legion so that is in my story. At the time i was making my story Forst worm were summonings of the Lich! They WALKED! I should know as i am a fan and got all bliz games. (Lord of the Clans was such a failure it was never released in OZ + I was about 6 at the time). I blame the spelling on myself, can you read it? I am only 12 so i am not too goode at spelling but i do know french! I can spell french better than you!... etc

VERY important: War2 history is NOT the same as War3.

Cheers! Wilbo.
01-13-2003, 06:22 AM#14
Zap
I'm willing to help, I might be able to do some triggers, And i'm learning skinning, Maybe thinking of a new name no offense.:gsmile: If you want me to help PM me i geuss.

I've never played WC2:BtDP But i played WC2! lol.
01-13-2003, 06:44 AM#15
wilbo
great! some people are interrested! I can tell you what happens next! OK. now this campaing is changing its name coz "The Horde in Northrend" is a bit... well if u like it then say so but i don't... I have decided to call it "The demons pawn" or "pawn of Darkness*" or somthing like that because the blademaster is unkowinly being the pawn of sargeras. I will be happy to recieve any suggestions 4 a better name.

*spawn of darkness, pawn of darkness. Is my humor any good?

MORE STORY
the reson nerzul is still trying to get the skull is because he needs to gain the favour of his master. basicly however gets the skull up and destroys it become sargeras' champion, the other becomes dead. Its the demon's indea of a game! when the Blade master suceeds sargeras basicly takes him over directly, he becomes the host. Of course he gets all demoned... Somone will have fun doing that! There may even be a 2nd race! But i will not explain plans before they are ready.


LEVELS
1: (I havn't really thought up titles, any ideas after hearing description?)

Cinematic: a couple of peons get lost in the mist while havesting lumber come across a valley leading over a range of mountains which are hindering the orcs. They find their way back to camp and tell the Warchief of it. He sends the Overseer and a group of scouts who he is to train into the valley.

Game: your hero is the overseer and you have a small group of grunts. you go on a large route through the valley until you find a gold source.

Cinematic: The overseer tells you to use your initiative and build a base but the grunts have no building skills, they prepare to leave when they hear shouts, a group of peons from an orc village are running away from a group of undead creatures, the grunts kill them and the peons thank you and tell you that their village is under attack, the grunts want to propose a deal, savig the village 4 building a base but the Overseer tells them not to, however they decide to do it anyway are there are more of them (orcs are disobediate fellows arn't they?) they also threaten to kill him! So the deal is made and the peons start building structures.

Game: there are only 2 peons left (others cut down) so one builds a TH and the other a PIG FARM. I put pigfarms coz i plan to introduce burrows in the next mission, used by the villagers as a defence mechanism! your mission is then to build another 5 pig farms, in all you need 6 pig farms and 1 TH. I am not sure whether the peons really should start building but still.

Demo: the overseer and several of the men go back to tell the Warchief while the others stay at the new village. they are certain the warchief will be pleased with the progress.


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like the 1st mission? i will tell you the next one after your comments on the 1st. I will tel you that it involves the overseer dobing you in and the defence of the orc village.

these things needed may not be understood as i have not covered them in the story. If you need a better description of a char or want to know what it does then ask. I will be helping any volenteers.

THINGS NEEDED
1. i need snow taurean and chief (skinning)
2. frost worm that walks (big job, orginally blizzard idea, modling)
3. Overseer model, skin and spells (could be a farseer but i would prefer not. he can be on foot or off, modeling, skinning, spelling)
4. a voodoo master dude a bit like Martel (skinning, spelling)
5. Nerzul (modeling, skinning)
6. Sargeras (demon blade master, skinning)
7. Warchief (modeling, skinnig)

well i really want these thing even if i don't need em! and i'll do em myself if nobody else will!

THINGS WANTED
1. each hero news. eg: taurean chief = taurean shaman, blade master = blade dancer...etc
2. nice furry white coats 4 da orcs. not undead, not santa clause humor please, wolf skin.

they may look small but they BIG!

DESCRIPTIONS
the overseer: he is an old veteran of both wars. he is waitened by his age but if threatened can fight better than any grunt. His skills have become a bit rusty of late and he is becoming rather lazy, using his experience and a large whip (if possibly modeled) to make the warriors fight, he may be on a wolf or off but probably on. He is really really old and has a pale skin and many wrinkles, his face looks like darth vadeur's master with fangs.

frost worm (legs): like a big lizard. NO, do not base this on a thunder lizard they are too fat, there is a pic of one on the bliz site, i wil put it on another post, this is too heavy already.

Voodoo Master: I only used that name coz ROK did, he was the "old man troll", the "Hermit" so infuture i will use one of the two, he is as old as the overseer and the two old fogees fight and squabble together (very touching)! so he also is a very old dude.

Nerzul: he can either be as he is seen on the demos in war2, preferably. or he can be the lich king, litreally a bigger different lich. BTW the best model 4 the orc ver of him is Archemonde but the model will need a lot of changing and skinning.

Sargeras: demon blade master. a red blade master with horns ans a little tail and spikes. there is a thread about a demon demon hunter, that sorta thing!

Warchief: he is a bit younger than the overseer but he is still really old. he is an old friend of the overseer, the rest is up to you.

I hope all this message fits!