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03-03-2007, 03:18 PM#1
Karzvitch
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03-04-2007, 01:47 PM#2
PitzerMike
A bit monotonous.
I only see one kind of grass and one kind of tree on the whole screen.
03-04-2007, 01:58 PM#3
Karzvitch
There's two types of trees.. But 1 type of grass at. You're the first to criticize that, everyone else criticized the mountain (Which I will post the new screenshot).
03-04-2007, 03:30 PM#4
iNfraNe
There arent 2 types of trees, there are 2 variations of the same tree. While that isnt so bad since you've correctly made them not all have the same size, it's still just something okay, there isnt really something which springs out of the picture.

Also, ye, the mountain is bad. Doesnt fit at all.

You can make snow on the top, but its REALLY hard to make it look realistic. You'd have to play around with camera FOV and make the mountains far away and larger.
03-04-2007, 04:32 PM#5
Karzvitch
Edit:

Added new screeny.
03-04-2007, 04:47 PM#6
iNfraNe
The mountains still look unrealistic. The angle of a mountain hardly ever goes above 45°. if it does then it is only for a small part and definatly not around the entire mountain.
03-04-2007, 04:51 PM#7
Karzvitch
I would reconsider that post.

And if this picture doesn't convince you, look at this website.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3D10%26hl%3Den
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03-04-2007, 04:56 PM#8
iNfraNe
now look up which mountain that is, and check out the mountain entirely. I ensure you that its radius is the same if not more than its height.
03-04-2007, 04:57 PM#9
Karzvitch
I know what mountain that is, I have been there (Yosemite Valley). And all the mountains have 60 - 80 degree sides.
03-04-2007, 05:48 PM#10
iNfraNe
well, show me the entire mountain.
03-04-2007, 06:30 PM#11
Karzvitch
Here is the half-dome at yosemite, was not able to find a full fountain view of Reeds Pinnacle.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3D10%26hl%3Den
03-04-2007, 06:36 PM#12
WNxCryptic
Here's a picture:

http://www.uh.edu/~doan2580/Yosemite%20Valley.jpg

In ANY case, the geoformations in Yosemite Valley aren't mountains...the valley itself is a series of gorges, and the walls of each gorge can very well be between 60 and 80 degrees. However, its not a mountain, and you'll notice in the photograph above that parts of the valley is composed of 35-40 degree slopes.

Additionally, even IF the Yosemite Valley were an arrangement of mountains with 80 degree slopes, the surrounding terrain and vegetation / climate are what make it realistic when we view it with our own eyes. What it simply boils down to is that based on what we can see, the mountain in the background is extremely unrealistic based on the degree of its slopes AND the surrounding terrain / weather.
03-04-2007, 06:37 PM#13
Killer_Mushroom
Here is a photograph of said mountains.

Still, iNfraNe has a point. The rock structures that have these incredibly steep angles are actually batholiths, and not true mountains. They have also suffered from heavy erosion, which is why there are so many steep cliff faces.

Also, the mountains in the distance (of Karvitch's terrain) are still very unrealistic. The batholiths from Yosemite are very different in shape from your terrain.
03-05-2007, 09:30 AM#14
iNfraNe
Even in those mountains you can clearly see that only a small piece of the "mountain" has a higher slope. Everything there is still composed of 45° slopes.
03-05-2007, 10:37 PM#15
Killer_Mushroom
Exactly.