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Dark Kael

07-13-2007, 05:30 AM#1
Newbwc3
This is a model I've been working on already posted at the Hive (Dark Kael W.I.P.) So I thought I'd share it with WC3C too. :D. The Model isn't finished yet. It still lacks animations, needs some UVW work, and some color manipulations.

Dark Kael Rendered in Magos




I need color suggestions for Dark Kael!! NOT UNDEAD Kael, Dark Kael...
This is just color V1.0 I'll probably make 3 more Versions.
Colors:
3 Orbs floating around him=Black with green flame?
Hair= Silver? blonde?
Eyes=Glowing Green, Glowing white, Glowing Dark?
Cape= Black?
Leg Armor= Same color maybe black instead of red?
Chest Armor= grey metal-like?
Sword= Blue? with Green and black flames?
07-13-2007, 06:24 AM#2
Fluff
Being a "Dark" Kael, I would suggest keeping a black cape and giving him silver or grey hair. Also, keep the eyes this color and I think they will look cool with the hair.

And I know someone will ask, so it might as well be me... What's up with his cape mesh? It looks kind of patched together.

EDIT: I read you post at the Hive, and I think you may be able to give him animations by copying over the original animations by use of that animation transfer programs...called Oinkerwinkles amiright?
07-13-2007, 05:34 PM#3
feik
Its good but you should lose the sword
07-13-2007, 05:35 PM#4
THE_END
I think you gotta change that sword first
Frostmourne just doesn't suit him
I would say skin it into some sort of Burning Legion or Blood Elf sword
07-13-2007, 06:33 PM#5
Rinpun
Some notes I figure may help you.
  1. Hair should definitely be silver. No question about that.
  2. Uh, the red armor underneath should have a blackish hue about them I think. The redness could still be maintained though.
  3. His cape should be reskinned entirely to be much more black, and probably should have a blue and/or gold rune stretching across the back of it.
  4. I kinda like the big sword, but I agree, it's doesn't really match Kael's elvish features. I'd give him an intricate short sword with green flame coming off of it.
  5. Orbs should be same green effect I think. Consider using three billboarded planes like the normal Kael, instead of modeling the orbs to waste triangles.
  6. Eyes should probably be either deep green or deep red, I can't decide.
  7. Face should be slightly pale. Yes I know he's not undead, but darkness tends to pale your skin...
  8. When he walks black energy should come off his feet.
  9. His gauntlets should be a bit more black to fit with the rest of his armor, and they should have some cool defining feature, like spikes on them or something.
  10. Some of his animations should be brought over, but all of his attack animations should be different I think. This is probably obvious, but modifying the portrait to have new shoulders should be all that's necessary (because the reskin will take care of the rest) in order for him to have a portrait. The animations for it should be kept. If you want an interesting effect, consider adding particle emitters around his eyes. For a portrait, this would be great; they should be the color of his eyes on his zoomed out mesh. Either red or green.
07-13-2007, 09:04 PM#6
Freakazoid
Yea, I also think you should use another sword, or drasticly change that one.
07-13-2007, 10:39 PM#7
PenguinEmperor
All your suggestions morph im into Sephiroth. But you all are right.
07-14-2007, 12:17 AM#8
Newbwc3
Thx for all the suggestions, especially rinpun..

Scaled up orbs, Scaled up whole model,(it was to small in WC), Changed orbs to more of a black color, Changed Gaunlet from ugly golden to red like rest of armor. Redid the ugly UV on the shoulder armor. Darkened cape, Paled the face, Made arm peice have bigger spikes, UVed the chest armor, made hair silver, changed color of glove to black.

Quote:
I kinda like the big sword, but I agree, it's doesn't really match Kael's elvish features. I'd give him an intricate short sword with green flame coming off of it.
Yea hes a elf but now He'll use the right hand for magic(conceled behind cape) and left hand for sword. On his spell animation I'd want him to reveal his right hand and have it all glowing and stuff. This change to more of a dark kael will make him less of a magic dependent character and more like a warrior, but still have magic.lol.


He will NOT have a small sword he will have a large sword. I may change the style,skin,and shape of it tho. I love large swords. (Clouds sword) :D Anyway I got alot of work to do.

For the cape I used the Lich and pasted the detailing on it, but I guess the lich cape wasn't dark enough.
07-15-2007, 02:45 PM#9
FinalTyrant
I can see where you're trying to go with this.

But it's all one giant fuckin' mess right about now.
07-17-2007, 11:34 AM#10
erwtenpeller
yeb. Not even the texture on the cape is alligned.
07-17-2007, 11:38 AM#11
Rao Dao Zao
Why has nobody said "emo Kael" yet?
07-17-2007, 02:33 PM#12
Whitehorn
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rao Dao Zao
emo Kael
07-17-2007, 04:22 PM#13
Newbwc3

I tryed to fix the cape and at least the folds are aligned now.
Quote:
emo Kael
-.- He doesn't look emo, and has no desire to cut himself, he'd rather cut others. He looks more like sephiroth with a huge sword and a different outfit. I think he looks good.
Quote:
originally posted by penguin emperor:All your suggestions morph im into Sephiroth. But you all are right.
Its your suggestions that made him this way.


Do you think it would look better if I had one large Blue rune stretching across the back of the cape?
07-17-2007, 10:42 PM#14
TheSecretArts
skin the freaking folds rather than UV them, if you just do normal skinning and then some edits, you get EMO Kael, but with a good skin.
07-18-2007, 03:09 AM#15
Newbwc3
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSecretarts
skin the freaking folds rather than UV them, if you just do normal skinning and then some edits, you get EMO Kael, but with a good skin.

I don't know the difference between skin and UV so I don't know what your talking about..Sry im a noob.

So your saying my skin sucks?