Custom damadge issue.

08-12-2007, 03:16 PM

I am making a spell that does damadge over time
and was just thinking if target of the spell has resistance of 50% to magic
and I do 7 damadge to it for 6 seconds will it calculate the dmg properly

i.e will it do 3.5 * 6 = 21 dmg or it will round it to 3 * 5 = 15 dmg

This is a huge difference in performance.

Also what are those attack types used for? (plant, death, force, acid ..)
Do they have any effect on the damadge ?

Is there a tutorial on this?

08-12-2007, 06:24 PM

TaintedReality

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Also what are those attack types used for? (plant, death, force, acid ..)
Do they have any effect on the damadge ?

Everything but Normal and Universal are of type Magic. Normal is normal/physical, and Universal bypasses everything. These types are just for the purpose of resistances and immunity (not armor). And, since they're basically all Magic they're kind of pointless =\.

Edit: Oh and to your first question - I'm pretty sure it will deal damage properly. Haven't actually tried it, but health is kept track of with reals so it shouldn't round it off.

08-12-2007, 06:58 PM	#3
cohadar	Are you saying that if I do triggered dmg with type Magic and unit is magic immune it will not be dmged, and if I do it with universal it will get pwned no matter what? And what if it is invulnerable?

08-12-2007, 07:47 PM	#4
TaintedReality	Yes to the first part. I'm not sure if Universal damage bypasses invulnerability or not. I'm thinking no, but you'd have to try it. Actually, I'm almost positive that no damage type will deal damage to an invulnerable unit, since invulnerability modifies armor, not resistances/immunities.

08-12-2007, 08:06 PM

Alexander244

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Originally Posted by jass.sourceforge.net

Damagetype is used by the damage functions to determine if the damage will be magical (doesn't affect magic immune), physical (doesn't affect ethereal) or universal (affects magic immune and ethereal).

Using null instead of the preset variables defaults to the DAMAGE_TYPE_UNKNOWN which is actually able to damage invulnerable units.

Damage Types:

Name:	Info:
DAMAGE_TYPE_ACID	magical
DAMAGE_TYPE_COLD	magical
DAMAGE_TYPE_DEATH	magical
DAMAGE_TYPE_DEFENSIVE	magical
DAMAGE_TYPE_DEMOLITION	phisical
DAMAGE_TYPE_DISEASE	magical
DAMAGE_TYPE_DIVINE	magical
DAMAGE_TYPE_ENHANCED	phisical
DAMAGE_TYPE_FIRE	magical
DAMAGE_TYPE_FORCE	phisical
DAMAGE_TYPE_LIGHTNING	magical
DAMAGE_TYPE_MAGIC	magical
DAMAGE_TYPE_MIND	magical
DAMAGE_TYPE_NORMAL	magical
DAMAGE_TYPE_PLANT	magical
DAMAGE_TYPE_POISON	magical
DAMAGE_TYPE_SHADOW_STRIKE	magical
DAMAGE_TYPE_SLOW_POISON	phisical
DAMAGE_TYPE_SONIC	magical
DAMAGE_TYPE_SPIRIT_LINK	magical
DAMAGE_TYPE_UNIVERSAL	universal
DAMAGE_TYPE_UNKNOWN	also affects invulnerable

Attacktype is used by the damage functions to determine how the damage will act against units with different armor types, this behaviour depends on the gameplay constants related with attack type and armor type.

ATTACK_TYPE_UNKNOWN or null seems to ignore the unit's armor.

Attack Types:

Name:	Info:
ATTACK_TYPE_CHAOS
ATTACK_TYPE_HERO
ATTACK_TYPE_MAGIC
ATTACK_TYPE_MELEE
ATTACK_TYPE_NORMAL	is actually spell damage
ATTACK_TYPE_PIERCE
ATTACK_TYPE_SIEGE

Edit: To answer your other question - damage does not get rounded to the closest integer.

08-12-2007, 08:51 PM	#6
cohadar	+rep and bookmarking this page.

08-13-2007, 07:12 AM	#7
Pheonix-IV	Hitpoints are actually reals with decimal places (i think 2?) they're only displayed as integers. Damage is also real, so decimal values for damage and life are used, WCIII -looks- like it rounds them off, but it doesn't.

05-18-2008, 12:06 AM	#8
Themerion	For everybody who has bookmarked this page (like me), I would like to warn that the table does not seem to be correct altogether. Like TaintedReality said, DAMAGE_TYPE_NORMAL is physical (doesn't work on banished units).

05-18-2008, 12:14 AM	#9
Vexorian	I made that table, and just noticed physical is the right word... Should update that site more often... anyways when I made that table I tested manually against banish and spell immune, it would have been a little lame if blizzard changed normal to make it physical, or could that have been a mistake from my end? Err, time to do tests...

05-18-2008, 06:00 AM	#10
DioD	invulnerable units cannot be damaged in any way.

05-18-2008, 08:17 AM

#11

Alexander244

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Originally Posted by divo

Attack Types:

Trigger Editor Constant	World Editor Constant	Classification	Notes
ATTACK_TYPE_CHAOS	Combat - Damage Bonus Table - Chaos	Normal Attack Type
ATTACK_TYPE_HERO	Combat - Damage Bonus Table - Hero	Normal Attack Type
ATTACK_TYPE_MAGIC	Combat - Damage Bonus Table - Magic	Magic Attack Type
ATTACK_TYPE_NORMAL	Combat - Damage Bonus Table - Spells	Magic Attack Type	Note the naming difference.
ATTACK_TYPE_MELEE	Combat - Damage Bonus Table - Normal	Normal Attack Type	Note the naming difference.
ATTACK_TYPE_PIERCE	Combat - Damage Bonus Table - Pierce	Normal Attack Type
ATTACK_TYPE_SIEGE	Combat - Damage Bonus Table - Siege	Normal Attack Type

Damage Types:

Trigger Editor Constant	Damage Type	Used with a Normal Attack Type	Used with a Magic Attack Type	Notes
DAMAGE_TYPE_ACID	Magic	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Takes magic resistance into consideration
DAMAGE_TYPE_COLD	Magic	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Takes magic resistance into consideration
DAMAGE_TYPE_DEATH	Magic	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Takes magic resistance into consideration
DAMAGE_TYPE_DEFENSIVE	Magic	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Takes magic resistance into consideration
DAMAGE_TYPE_DEMOLITION	Magic	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Takes magic resistance into consideration
DAMAGE_TYPE_DISEASE	Magic	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Takes magic resistance into consideration
DAMAGE_TYPE_DIVINE	Magic	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Takes magic resistance into consideration
DAMAGE_TYPE_ENHANCED	Magic	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Takes magic resistance into consideration
DAMAGE_TYPE_FIRE	Magic	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Takes magic resistance into consideration
DAMAGE_TYPE_FORCE	Magic	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Takes magic resistance into consideration
DAMAGE_TYPE_LIGHTNING	Magic	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Takes magic resistance into consideration
DAMAGE_TYPE_MAGIC	Magic	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Takes magic resistance into consideration	Just use this one for magic damage.
DAMAGE_TYPE_MIND	Magic	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Takes magic resistance into consideration
DAMAGE_TYPE_NORMAL	Physical	Takes armor into consideration	Takes armor and magic resistance into consideration	Physical as in melee and ranged attacks
DAMAGE_TYPE_PLANT	Magic	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Takes magic resistance into consideration
DAMAGE_TYPE_POISON	Magic	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Takes magic resistance into consideration
DAMAGE_TYPE_SHADOW_STRIKE	Magic	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Takes magic resistance into consideration
DAMAGE_TYPE_SLOW_POISON	Magic	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Takes magic resistance into consideration
DAMAGE_TYPE_SONIC	Magic	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Takes magic resistance into consideration
DAMAGE_TYPE_SPIRIT_LINK	Magic	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Takes magic resistance into consideration
DAMAGE_TYPE_UNIVERSAL	Universal	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Takes magic resistance into consideration	Used with ultimates.
DAMAGE_TYPE_UNKNOWN	Unknown	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Ignores armor and magic resistance	Ignores both armor and magic resistance.

05-18-2008, 03:22 PM

#12

darkwulfv

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Originally Posted by DioD

invulnerable units cannot be damaged in any way.

Wrong, I do it all the time (usually on accident). With the right DAMAGE_TYPE variable (or null), it can bypass invulnerability and hit them anyways. I think UNIVERSAL might as well, but I know UNKNOWN does.

05-18-2008, 04:17 PM	#13
Vexorian	It is lame that they aren't independent, a blizzard post said damagetype is the one dealing with magic resistance while attacktype deals with armor, now it looks like they are all mixed.