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Lindormr Dragon

08-28-2007, 10:08 PM#1
olofmoleman
A piece I've been working on and off for about half a year, now I finaly finished it.
I originally started on this for a concept for my Lindormr Dragon model. But I finised that model long before I finished this one.
I drew it with pencil, then scanned it and painted over it in Photoshop, this is actually my very first serious try at painting in Photoshop, and I think it came out pretty good, although I had a lot of trouble getting the fire as I wanted it.
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08-28-2007, 10:46 PM#2
unwirklich
i have to say, that i dont really like the fire. but besifde that its nice.
most dragon pictures didnt show them on the floor, normally they are in some "look, i am great" pose.
i like it how this one crouches down, the dragons anatomy seems to be right.
08-29-2007, 01:18 PM#3
TDR
you have some catastrophic perspective errors there, mate. It's impossible to see the whole side of the head, the palate and the jaw interior + tongue all at the same time. Also the neck looks bent at a very sharp angle where it joins the chest...actually the neck looks parallel to the body, both being seen from their sides...
The whole thing looks very flat, you did not render it very well. That light from the flame has to cast some strong shadows but I see none in your drawing. By the way, that flame looks horrible, all smudgy and stuff...And the fingers look like they're made out of around 10 phalanges, being a perfect curve like that.
All in all I don't think it's a very good piece, sorry. You could have worked harder in the same amount of time and you would have achieved a better result imo.
08-29-2007, 05:59 PM#4
antihero
The flame definitely is not casting enough highlights on the rest of the image considering it is the only light source.
As TDR said, stronger shadows.
08-29-2007, 07:36 PM#5
Born²Modificate
Anyway, its still better than most of the pictures shown by people here saying: " Lawl l00k here ma first attempt on dr4wing, omfg"

Actually one can see that you, who are not a professional at drawing, invested much time in there and achieved quite a nice result, remembering that you are an amateur at drawing.
08-31-2007, 02:41 PM#6
olofmoleman
Quote:
Originally Posted by TDR
It's impossible to see the whole side of the head, the palate and the jaw interior + tongue all at the same time.
Not if it has a head that's thin at the end and wide at the base. Wich is the case on this dragon.

And fire is smooth and smudgy.
08-31-2007, 10:20 PM#7
Kurjuus
Quote:
Originally Posted by olofmoleman
Not if it has a head that's thin at the end and wide at the base. Wich is the case on this dragon.

well, then you failed at displaying it with the right volume ;P

which was actually meantioned already (meaning that the whole thing has not much volume)

gurr gurr..
09-01-2007, 12:10 PM#8
Dojo
Quote:
Originally Posted by olofmoleman
Not if it has a head that's thin at the end and wide at the base. Wich is the case on this dragon.

And fire is smooth and smudgy.


Thats right. Its possible but i think it would look cooler with tdr's sugesstions. Fire is cool but somehow it doesnt fit with the dragon which is very realitic. The fire is a POW magic fantasy fire. :D
09-01-2007, 12:45 PM#9
olofmoleman
Like I said, the fire was a bitch to make.
09-01-2007, 01:07 PM#10
TDR
you're not right moleman. You made the head very weird, the right side is seen from perfect side and even with a tapered head it is still wrong.
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I made a schematic 3d representation of your dragon to illustrate. This is how it should have been:

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As you can see, you don't see the perfect side, you see a bit of the top of the head, you see the front of the mouth and you don't see both the palate and the jaw interior at the same time.
Even if you saw the perfect side, you can't see the interior of the mouth like that:

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Too see the whole mouth interior and a little of the side you would have to be positioned somewhere below it, like this:

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So you basically made a mix of many view angles. From now on block in every shape into geometric volumes (boxes, spheres, etc) in relatively correct perspective and use them as a guideline.
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09-01-2007, 01:32 PM#11
Dojo
i think you are not right too because u cant simplify a model that way. U dont know the exact form of the head. What u see doesnt have to be only the side plane of the head. But u are right if u say the perspective isnt the best but it is imo possible that way. There are even photos where u think: Oo how can that be.

What if the head would look more like this? (the upper part seen in fron view)

09-01-2007, 04:31 PM#12
Dionesiist
TDR knows what he's talking about, trust me.
09-01-2007, 05:26 PM#13
olofmoleman
That thing TDR has shown doesn't even come close to the proportions of my dragon.
But I admit that compared to the neck the head is facing the wrong way.
09-02-2007, 10:48 AM#14
bounty_hunter2
i realy like it. I don't see a thing that is bad but I am a newb at this but for me this is great. +rep
02-19-2008, 11:06 PM#15
varsaigen
THIS OWNS!!!!!!!!!!!! ^ ^

But one problem that can be explained is the fact that the shoulders are uneven. The solution the that is: HE'S TWISTING HIS BODY AROUND!

Either that, or he has a deformity. lol