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Can a Hero have multiple Orb of Lightning (new) abilites?

02-22-2004, 03:39 PM#1
Burne
I hope the answer is yes :)
Do Area Spells work with the Orb of Lightning(new) ability? I'd like to be able to proc a Silence effect.
02-22-2004, 03:44 PM#2
Shimrra
I'm not sure what you mean... AOE spells like silence will work if you have an Orb of Lightning, but some like Cleave don't seem to function properly with an orb. Multiple orbs stack in damage, but effects. (You could have an Orb of Cold and Fire, but you wouldn't get AOE damage and slow effects.) If non of this was what you wanted, please try explaining again.
02-22-2004, 04:31 PM#3
Burne
I would like my hero to have several different proc abilities at the same time. A Silence proc, a Snare Proc, a Purge Proc, Ect. I just wanted to know if anyone else had made something like that function. And thanks for the word on Silence with the Orb proc, that will help with several things.
02-22-2004, 04:42 PM#4
ThyFlame
Why don't you just modify the orbs and test each thing you want?

That'd be easier.
02-22-2004, 04:43 PM#5
Shimrra
What exactly is a proc?
02-22-2004, 05:34 PM#6
Burne
Proc is an everquest referance, basically if you know how the Orb of Lightning New works, then you know how procs work.

As to why I asked, I hoped someone had done this before and had made a Hero or Unit with 3 or more procs/Orb of Lightning(new) effects.
02-22-2004, 05:39 PM#7
Shimrra
A Hero can not have more then one ability based on the same move. (And proc, I am assuming, is something that gives a percent to do something on attack?)
02-22-2004, 05:43 PM#8
Oxalic
Lingo
Proc - A percentile that a special effect will occur will attacking in combat
02-22-2004, 05:45 PM#9
Shimrra
Thanks Oxalic. I was wondering about that... ( Burne, you should usually explain things from other games, as not everyone has played Everquest here...)
02-22-2004, 06:09 PM#10
Burne
Thanks for the help.
02-22-2004, 07:31 PM#11
Cubasis
Burne

I think you should be able to have multiple Orb spells using the same base.

However, i can't tell for sure as i haven't tested it, but generally, Abilities without order-strings can be put on the same hero multiple times, that is, skills that you do not "use" should work ok.

f.ex. we have a BonusMod where we apply different Damage/whatever Bonuses where they all have the same base.

So i believe you can have multiple spells like these that use the same base, but only if they are not usable (don't have orderstrings)

Cubasis
02-23-2004, 09:03 AM#12
yewtee
It's possible as long as you are adding separate abilities, like a hero can have lvl 1, 2 and 3 blink all at the same time.
02-23-2004, 09:37 AM#13
Cubasis
huh?

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Sorry, but to my knowledge, that makes no sense. So please explain better. As I know that you can't have multiple skills on the same hero with the same orderstring...and blink deffinetely have the same order-strings....

Cubasis
02-23-2004, 10:32 AM#14
Grater
Altough Cubasis is right in general about passive abilities. However it also seems orbs have special behaivour that means only one orb effect can be active at a time.

Silence cannot be done orb-style, but such a proc is definitely possible with triggers.
02-23-2004, 04:27 PM#15
xXEarth-FuryXx
triggers with dummy items. only way.


orbs never worked right. one per hero, damage stacks, evects dont. one in the highest numpad is the one used for its effect.

trust me, ive tested it on MANY ocacions. i think it may have to do with the modification of attack art not being able to stack so blizard made it 1 effect per unit as a quickfix they never intended to improve upon.